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tmafarrell
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2010 :  16:59:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
was that on 656 west north in chicago? i have the 1910 census which list arline, caroline and robert at the very end of the page- i wonder, was karen at the top of the next page (which i didn't have)?

Hilsen,
Todd
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2010 :  17:03:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Todd,

Joel Thoreson at www.elca.org could probably answer your question about the Norwegian Lutheran church in Chicago.

A "made up" husband is certainly possible. Personally, I know of at least three cases of mysterious dead-husband-in-Norway of which there is none!

There were a few Norwegian Blombergs but mostly they appear to be from Sweden. There were a few Blombergs in Minnesota and quite a few more in Illinois. Perhaps Olive's father's name was actually Blomberg, and he was from Sweden and when the opportunity presented itself the "form followed the function." Potential church records of a baptism for Olive might reveal more about her father and her parents' relationship. And the other possibility is that Olive was adopted and was not a blood relative at all.

A study of Chicago city directories would be the best source for addresses.

There is or is no doubling up on Rachel in the 1900 census? LyndaL mentioned that she had a 1900 census listing for Rachel but the actual copy pasted in related to the 1910 census. Ragnhild and Olive are found as Berg in the 1900 census living with the parents and sister Caroline. But are they also counted as Blomberg in the 1900 census?

I wonder if Ragnhild / Rachel is still in Minnesota in 1895?

Hilsen,
Jackie M.
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tmafarrell
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2010 :  17:13:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sorry- i wasn't clear in my last post- no, i think the info posted was correct about the 1910 census- that must be the right rachel/olive. the addresses- although both valid addresses- are too close; both with house number 1505.

i have olive with jens and karen in the 1895 census in minnesota, but no ragnhild or caroline (i know caroline wasn't married until 1904).

Hilsen,
Todd

Edited by - tmafarrell on 27/05/2010 17:36:59
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Lislcat
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USA
690 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2010 :  18:46:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both Carrie (Karen) and John Lende are listed at the top of the next page of the 1910 US Census. I believe the address is listed as West North Ave.

Lislcat
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tmafarrell
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2010 :  18:53:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
aha! thank you!

Hilsen,
Todd
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Lislcat
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USA
690 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2010 :  19:21:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is just my opinion, but I think that Ragnhild probably did have a relationship with a man named Blomberg or something similar. Whether she married him or not, is still unknown. I do think that if Olive listed her father as being Swedish, that he is Swedish. Otherwise, Ragnhild could of said he was Norwegian. Why change nationalities, if it wasn't true?

Question regarding the name Ragnhild. I have three in my family and I'm just wondering if there is a nickname in Norway for Ragnhild? Thanks!

Lislcat
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2010 :  20:08:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hei Wanda,
I have never heard a nickname for Raghild.

Ragnhild is pronounced wthout the h and d, completly different pronunciation than in English.

Good training for the tongue;

R A (a in bar) G (g in gall) N (kn in knee) I ( i in sit) L(l in least)

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 28/05/2010 00:05:06
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tmafarrell
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2010 :  20:17:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'll see what i can piece together today from my grandparents...

Hilsen,
Todd
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Lislcat
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USA
690 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2010 :  21:12:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tusen takk, Kċre! :-)

Lislcat
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tmafarrell
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 28/05/2010 :  03:43:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well- just home from visiting the grandparents.
YES! this is the correct olive-ragnhild-rachel-frederick-berg-blomberg-wallis.
apparently olive had 2 boys- paul and my grandfather seems to remember a frederick jr.
they say neither married (or at least as of 1945).
also, neither rachel-ragnhild nor olive ever remarried, both having lost husband/partners quite young.
olive did play the piano- so the music lessons from the census make sense. she was also an only child.
rachel-ragnhild was alive in 1945 (when my grandmother met the family), so that might help my search for her death info.
they also mentioned olives husband working at the cemetery.

i was sitting there asking questions, and they were validating all the information you found for me. it was quite amazing!

thank you again!

Hilsen,
Todd
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tmafarrell
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2012 :  07:29:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i know it has been awhile, but i finally found ragnhild (rachael) blomberg's obituary. she died 31 march 1958 in chicago. it was listed in the chicago tribune.

thank you everyone, once again, for your help and direction!

happy new year!

Hilsen,
Todd
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LynnAnderson
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USA
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Posted - 23/12/2016 :  16:05:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[Dear Todd,

My step father is Franklin T. Wallis formerly from Chicago. His brother was Paul Wallis who died in the snowstorm. His mother was Olive Wallis. I saw some posts requiring about the family back in 2010. I just recently came across this website. My father married my Mother, Kathleen Stamos/Staff from Chicago in 1977. They are now living in Englewood, Florida. I'm Lynn, Kathleen's second daughter and I live in Arlington Heights. Not sure what you are looking for, maybe just family information. But I would like to tell my father about you. Can you explain the relation?

Thanks,

Edited by - LynnAnderson on 23/12/2016 16:09:57
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tmafarrell
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 23/12/2016 :  18:56:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Lynn!

Olive Blomberg is my first cousin three times removed. The relation is through my great grandmother, Arline Meeker Seibold. The mother of Olive, Ragnhild (or maybe known as Rachel, Rosa, etc), was Arline's aunt. The mother of Arline, Caroline, and Ragnhild were sisters.

My direct email is Todd.Norway at gmail dot com if you would prefer to contact me directly. I was just wondering what had happened to some family members and if anyone had photos, I'd love to share any scanned ones they may have. I have a fair amount myself that I inherited from my great grandmother.

Before my grandfather died in 2011, he remembers Franklin and Paul; he grew up in Chicago, too. My grandfather was Robert Seibold, son or Arline.

I hope this finds you well, and thank you so much for reaching out to me!

Best,
Todd

Hilsen,
Todd
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