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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 25/08/2018 : 02:16:28
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Anne Mathilde with a birthday of 22 September doesn't match what Florence's daughter reported as Florence birthday (21 November). Not ruling it out - just saying.
Here's an 1880 census that fits with the 1885 census in Holt township, Fillmore, Minnesota (posted on page 3) - and fits with the birth of Anne Mathilde and Mina Emelia.
1880
Minnehaha, Dakota territory, Minnesota
John Peterson 33 born in Norway
Annie Peterson 20 born in Norway (circa 1860)
M. Annie Peterson 2 b Minnesota
E. Emma Peterson 1 b Minnesota
1880
1885
Holt, Fillmore, Minnesota
John Peterson 47 born Norway
Anna Peterson 25 born Norway (circa 1860)
Anne 8
Mina 5
Helmer 4
1885
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/08/2018 : 02:22:50
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Originally posted by lynn peterson432
you have a john c peterson homesteading in section4 and there is also a john c peterson on the1880 census Fillmore co mn residence rusford mn
This one here likely the homesteader John C Peterson in section 28:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ9Q-PQT
Large family none of the names of children match. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2018 : 02:35:02
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Originally posted by JaneC
Anne Mathilde with a birthday of 22 September doesn't match what Florence's daughter reported as Florence birthday. Not ruling it out - just saying.
Here's an 1880 census that fits with the 1885 census in Holt township, Fillmore, Minnesota (posted on page 3) - and fits with the birth of Anne Mathilde and Mina Emelia.
1880
Minnehaha, Dakota territory, Minnesota
John Peterson 33 born in Norway
Annie Peterson 20 born in Norway
M. Annie Peterson 2
E. Emma Peterson 1
1880
1885
Holt, Fillmore, Minnesota
John Peterson 47 born Norway
Anna Peterson 25 born Norway (circa 1860)
Anne 8
Mina 5
Helmer 4
Awesome find! They are actually living with an Isabella Johnson age 75 b Norway fa b Norway ma b Norway and her daughter Carrie Johnson age 42 who is marked as blind and idiotic b. Norway.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCVW-X47
Isabell Johnson proved up her original entry homestead in 30 March 1881:
SD 5th PM 102N - 048W NW¼, Lot/Trct 1 6 Minnehaha
SD 5th PM 102N - 048W NW¼, Lot/Trct 2 6 Minnehaha
Located roughly about 10 miles northeast of the Sioux Falls Regional Airport in the center of a triangle formed by lines between Crooks, Garretson and Brandon S.D.
Possible death / burial of Isabell Johnson found in the WPA survey online at South Dakota Historical Society site:
INGEBOR JOHNSON 1885 28 1 GARRETSON MINNEHAHA ST PAULS LUTHERAN
INGEBORG JOHNSON 246 SIOUX FALLS MINNEHAHA WOODLAWN
PEDER JOHNSON 02-04-1915 27 S & D SIOUX FALLS MINNEHAHA MT PLEASANT
PEDER JOHNSON 3-13-1878 SE 10 BALTIC MINNEHAHA WEST PIONEER NIDAROS
CARRIE JOHNSON 04-25-1919 267 8 SIOUX FALLS MINNEHAHA MT PLEASANT
CARRIE JOHNSON 07-21-1923 SIOUX FALLS MINNEHAHA MINNEHAHA POOR FARM
CARRIE JOHNSON 1917 21 GARRETSON MINNEHAHA ZION LUTHERAN
No Caroline found. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 25/08/2018 13:11:05 |
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jkmarler
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lynn peterson432
Medium member
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168 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2018 : 06:06:07
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| is the florence burke on the 1920 census winona co minnesota and the flossy burke on the 1900 census Winona co minnesota two different people or the same person |
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BCady
Starting member
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Posted - 25/08/2018 : 06:10:01
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JKMarler: Re: Your notation about Johnsons living in South Dakota
Family (verbal) history says the Petersons moved from MN to SD - failed (a farming?) and moved back to MN. Nothing mentions where in SD they lived. This may be the connection I'm looking for. |
Barbara Cady |
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BCady
Starting member
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Posted - 25/08/2018 : 06:12:04
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| My grandmother, Florence, was also known as Flossie. |
Barbara Cady |
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lynn peterson432
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Posted - 25/08/2018 : 06:43:02
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[quote]Originally posted by BCady
JKMarler: Re: Your notation about Johnsons living in South Dakota
Family (verbal) history says the Petersons moved from MN to SD - failed (a farming?) and moved back to MN. Nothing mentions where in SD they lived. This may be the connection I'm looking for.
[/quote if they were liviing in south dakota in 1880 and florence was born in 1881 how is it possible that she could be living in south dakota in 1880 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2018 : 10:26:17
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Originally posted by BCady
JKMarler: Re: Your notation about Johnsons living in South Dakota
Family (verbal) history says the Petersons moved from MN to SD - failed (a farming?) and moved back to MN. Nothing mentions where in SD they lived. This may be the connection I'm looking for.
Well, the topic is getting so long I could've missed it, but I don't think I've read that before. Woohoo! Another invisible thread to bind them up.... |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/08/2018 : 10:28:58
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Originally posted by lynn peterson432
[quote]Originally posted by BCady
JKMarler: Re: Your notation about Johnsons living in South Dakota
Family (verbal) history says the Petersons moved from MN to SD - failed (a farming?) and moved back to MN. Nothing mentions where in SD they lived. This may be the connection I'm looking for.
[/quote if they were liviing in south dakota in 1880 and florence was born in 1881 how is it possible that she could be living in south dakota in 1880
It would only work if there is some error in family record about Florence's birthdate and if Florence = Anne Mathilde.... |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/08/2018 : 12:03:55
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Here's a baby Caroline born October 1874 to John Pedersen and Ingeborg Andersen. If same John Pedersen, this is an earlier marriage.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2018 : 12:44:19
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I don't think we've considered that John may have married before, Here is a likely marriage from Fillmore county in MOMS:
FILLMORE A2-301B 09/04/1871 PETERSON, JOHN ANDERSON, ISABELLA
Ingeborg is a name that is often Anglicized to Isabelle or just Belle. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2018 : 14:50:29
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Originally posted by lynn peterson432
and all thecensus you have john peterson has different ages
A problem?
Not known with great certainty if they are the right John Peterson
1. 1875 neighbors to Peter Johnson age 23 so born 1852
Most positively known as the correct John Peterson:
1. 1926 Obituary age 80 years so born 1846
2. 1885 Minnesota Fillmore county census age 47 so born 1838
3. 1880 US Dakota Territorial 33 so born 1847
4. 1905 Minnesota Census age 57 so born 1848
5. 1910 US Minnesota age 60 so born 1850
6. Family tradition 1846 and 1851
7. Report from Death certificate age 80 so born 1846
John Peterson is being identified by his proximity to his whole family. Otherwise, we couldn't tell him from any of the other dozens of John Petersons. So throw out the high one 1851 and the low one 1838 and average the 6 remaining so the average is 1847.
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lynn peterson432
Medium member
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Posted - 25/08/2018 : 15:19:25
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| unfortnanely we dont have the courthouse records on john peterson BCady ithink it would be a good idea you contact them and see what they have |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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3020 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2018 : 16:35:24
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Nice birth year math, lol.
Find-a-Grave memorial created by Cory gives Elmer Albert (Peterson) Martin date of birth as 22 November 1883. Died December 1965 in Hennepin county, Minnesota.
Official Minnesota Death Index
Elmer A Martin
born 22 November 1881
died December 1965 in Hennepin county, Minnesota
link
At least that's a somewhat better fit with the candidate family.
Elmer Martin married Myrtle Pomeroy 1909 in Winona.
World War I Draft Registration
Elmer OSCAR Martin
born 22 November 1880
Nearest relative: Myrtle
link
This 1919 record calls him Elmer OSCAR Martin.
Birth of a son
1920 census lists Elmer O Martin in Minneapolis with Myrtle.
Use of middle name Oscar also makes Elmer a better fit with the candidate boy. Maybe interest in the candidate was sparked by having seen these... |
Edited by - JaneC on 25/08/2018 18:32:35 |
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Petersons in Houston County, Minnesota
