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enshanley
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 Posted - 13/06/2010 : 05:13:34
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In 1881, Edvard B Johansen (b. 1-14-1841 Røyken) emigrated to La Crosse, WI, USA with his much younger brother Thorvald (b. 9-26-1862 Røyken) . With the specification of La Crosse, WI as the destination, it leads me to believe that they had other family members in the area already. However, I can't find anyone who had come over before that. Edvard and Thorvald had several siblings that I can't seem to find any information about beyond birth records, so I am hoping that if I can get a bit more on them that I might find my connection. Does anyone have any information about any of the following? Death records, marriage records, children? Anything would be helpful!
Parents are Johan Pedersen b. 8-25-1818 Røyken and Anne Jørgine Svendsdatter b. 9-19-1818 Asker
Siblings are:
- Maren Sorine Johansdatter b. 2-12-1843 Røyken
- Pernille Johansdatter b. 2-26-1845 b. 2-28-1848 Røyken
- Lovise Johansdatter b. 2-28-1848 Røyken
- Christian Johansen b. 2-28-1848 Røyken
- Julia Johansen b. 1851
- Anette Johansdatter b. 3-1-1854 Røyken
- Pouline Johansdatter b. 10-14-1857 Røyken
- Martine Johansdatter b. 5-13-1860 Røyken
Thanks so much for any help! |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/06/2010 : 07:36:43
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Confirmation records are
Oct 4 1857, Maren Sørine, see #32
April 14 1861, Petronella (Pernille), see #9
Oct 4 1863, Lovise, see #16
Oct 4 1863, Christian, see #23
Oct 1 1865, Julie, see #22
Oct 4 1868, Anette, see #31
Oct 6 1872, Pouline, see #41
April 30 1876, Martine, see #22
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/06/2010 : 07:40:50
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The parents and 4 children (not yet confirmated) in 1865.
Other children in 1865 are
Julie
Lovise
Maren
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/06/2010 : 11:05:12
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Julia was born Febr 15 1851 and baptized June 9, see #13.
Thorvald was born Sept 26 1862 and baptized Jan 25 1863, see #6.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 13/06/2010 : 17:03:39
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Isn't this the same family that you inquired here several times about in 2008? Some of the records above appear to be duplications of information found for those earlier postings.
How exactly do you expect to prove your connection to them? Who is it that when found (and where) will prove to definitely be an ancestor of yours?
There were several Norway born "Edward Johnson" men in the LaCrosse, Wisconsin area. Is your known family shown in the 1900 US census in the LaCrosse area? Which family is it? (I'd like to see the correct entry in that census -- if you'd share names of the children that would help me to look at the correct census page.) |
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enshanley
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Posted - 13/06/2010 : 20:08:22
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Yes, this is the same family. I haven't had much time to do research in the past few years, so I am trying to get back into it. As I posted in the first entry, I had the birth records of many of the individuals, but all of the confirmation records were new to me.
My great-great grandfather was Edvard Johansen. He married Dora Schmeckpeper in La Crosse in 1889. Many family members seem to have stories that tell of Edvard being married before Dora (which certainly makes sense given their 19 year age difference) as well as stories about "Uncle Tom" and his only son "Oscar." Edvard is buried in La Crosse (where I am from) and his headstone also writes of his father's name "Johan" and birthplace "Askers." Edvard and Dora had 4 children together (including my great grandfather).
In the 1900 Census, I can only find Edvard, Dora and their 4 children (Ida, Arthur, Harry, and Julia). I have found the immigration records for Edvard and Thorvald separate from Edvard's first wife, Jorgine, and their four children who were still alive at the time (Andreas, Jorgen, Anthon, and Julius). However, by the time that they arrived in 1881, the 1880 census had already been taken and none of those children are found anywhere in the 1900 census. I have information that shows that Jorgine had passed away in 1887 and Julius in 1895, but Andreas, Jorgen, and Anthon seem to be missing from the 1900 census. I am wondering if perhaps they went by different names once they arrived to the US and since they would have been of age, they were perhaps living on their own with their wives and families.
I'm sorry if this post doesn't make a lot of sense. It has kind of gone a different direction than I thought it would go. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/06/2010 : 23:30:26
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The Edward Johnson in the 1900 LaCrosse WI census (14th ward of the city, sheet 10B) was NOT married to a woman named Dora Schmeckpeper. The father of Ida, Arthur, Harry and Julia (not legible) was married to Andrine or Anna Gulbrandsen, a native of Norway.
Edward (Edwart) and Andrine married 15 Oct 1889 in La Crosse. Edward was only about 9 years older than Andrine.
Your information about a Dora Schmeckpeper makes it appear that you might be chasing the wrong family. |
Edited by - Hopkins on 14/06/2010 00:00:48 |
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enshanley
Starting member
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Posted - 14/06/2010 : 01:39:55
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| I'm sorry, I misspoke in my earlier post. My great grandfather, Arthur Johnson, was the person who married Dora Schmeckpeper. Arthur is Edward's son. I was one generation off when I wrote, sorry! Edward did indeed marry Andrine Gulbrandsen. I have her birthdate (from several sources) as April 1860, which would make her 19 years younger than Edward who was born in 1841, but I have yet to find her birth record since I cannot find where in Norway she was from. |
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