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jreichman
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 Posted - 14/08/2010 : 22:38:13
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| Looking for information on Henry Christian Dahle. Born in 1840, listed as Sandgsogn (can't find on map). Emmigrated to Hull, England. Married to Alice, born in Yorkshire in 1842 (Poole?). Children: Thomas J. (1868): Archibald (my grandfather - born 1869); Angus G. born 1872; Ann Maude and helene A (born 1874; Herbert, born 1875; Dora, born in 1878; John born in 1889, and Oscar, born in 1890) Henry would have died in 1920 in Hull. Henry worked as a draper's asst and as a hatter. Married Alice Poole at Holy Trinity in 1867. Any information most appreciated. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/08/2010 : 23:19:24
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According to their marriage record, his father is August Theodor Dahle.
Sailor and widower August T. Dahle (b. 1809 in Drammen, Buskerud) can be found at Aagaard farm in Bakke, Vest-Agder in the Norwegian 1865-census.
August is registered as a lodger, and master of the house is parish priest Anders Dahle born 1805 in Drammen, Buskerud. Anders Dahle could most likely be an older brother of August, thus Henry Christian's uncle.
The old parish "Bakke" where the Aagard farm is located is today in Flekkefjord, Vest-Agder.
August Theodor Dahle & Gunnild Hellene Jorgensdr Holm
Marriage Date: 27 Jul 1838, Sande,Vestfold,Norway
From LDS:
Henrich Christian Augustinusen ["Henry Christian Dahle"]
Birth: 05 DEC 1839, Chr 29 DEC 1839, Sande, Vestfold, Norway
Parents: August Theodor Dahle & Gunnild Hellene Holm
Some brothers of Henry Christian:
Hartvig Emil, Birth: 01 OCT 1838, Christening: 22 OCT 1838, Sande, Vestfold, Norway.
Julius Albert, Christening 20 Nov 1841, Tangen Drammen, Buskerud, Norway.
Julius Albert, Birth: 17 Mar 1844, Christening: 11 Aug 1844, Drammen, Buskerud, Norway.
Carl Emil, Christening 07 Jan 1849, Strømsø, Buskerud, Norway. Death Date: 11 Jun 1849.
Julius Albert, Christening: MAY 1850, Strømsø, Buskerud, Norway
Georg Adolph, Christening 17 Aug 1851, Strømsø, Buskerud, Norway.
What you have as "Sandgsogn" would thus be Sande sogn (sogn=parish), Vestfold county, Norway.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 14/08/2010 23:56:48 |
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jreichman
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Posted - 15/08/2010 : 00:01:51
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| Thank you ever so much. It would have taken me forever to find this information!! I'm still attempting to put together the family tree of Henry once he arrived in England. Do you think he would have been the only one to emmigrate or would the whole family have left Norway? Would the reason have been economic? Before marrying Alice, I see that Henry got himself into a little embezzlement problem and actually spent 5 months in prison!! When he finally did marry in 1967, he and Alice had 7 children! I would think that some of those grandchildren ended up in the US, but I can't make those assumptions. Thank you so much for the information. I truly appreciate your research. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/08/2010 : 00:23:48
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Being a son of a sailor, it could be that Henry Christian also was a sailor, or possibly followed his father "at work"...
It was not very common to emigrate to England, so chances are that he was in Hull on business (e.g as a sailor). Hull was a major seaport in those days, and a huge number of Norwegian ships went to England with timber, ice and fish, e.g. cod or salmon.
Maybe he ended up in a fight in an English pub over Alice Poole, and from there to prison? 
The reasons for emigration was several, but the economic part played a major role. The unemployment rate was quite high in Norway in the mid 1800's, and people received letters and stories from succesful familymembers and neighbors that had started a new life in America.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/08/2010 : 01:09:33
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Btw; Oscar Hildred Dahle born 1890 is not the son of Henry Christian and Alice. Oscar is the son of Thomas Theodor Dahle and wife Mary A., ie. he is the grandson of Henry C.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915:
Thomas Theodor Dahle b 1868
Archibald Henry Dahle b 1869
Angus Gascoigne Dahle b 1872
Ann Maude Dahle b 1873
Helena Alberta Dahle b 1873
Herbert Pool Dahle b 1874
Dora Johnston Dahle b 1877
John Leak Dahle b 1880
From the 1901 England Census:
Archibald Henry Dahle b.1870
(wife) Mary Dahle b. 1870
(daughter) Florence Beatrice Dahle b 1891
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jreichman
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Posted - 15/08/2010 : 05:17:06
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| Thank you. In my stack of papers, I do know that Oscar is the son of Thomas. I also found out that Florence Dahle was not a Dahle but is listed as a Taylor in another census. Florence and her mother (my grandmother, Mary Alice Taylor, were housekeepers of a man named Manasseh Jack, a widower born in the West Indies). I think I'll have to get a birth certificate for Florence and for my grandmother, Mary Alice Taylor. Oh, I wish I would have started this years ago. Am attempting to put all this on a tree through GenesReunited - a simple navigational program. If only I could get all the people straight!! There's also a Poole listed on one census - another confusing avenue! It's actually fun but can be a shade frustrating. I need to retire and work on this full-time! Your information is most helpful - I can't thank you enough! I think I've completed Henry Dahle, Now I'll work on my mother's mother, Mary A Taylor. Oh life in the 1880's must have been grueling. thank you again. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/08/2010 : 08:50:42
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August Theodor Henrichsen was born Dec 9 1809 and baptized at Tangen, Drammen April 24 1810. His parents were Henrich and Else Dahle.
His brothers were
Anders Henrichsen baptized June 5 1805 at Tangen, Drammen
Christopher Henrichsen baptized Febr 20 1807 at Tangen, Drammen
Henrich Christian Henrichsen baptized March 30 1808 at Tangen, Drammen
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/08/2010 : 09:29:26
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Most of the listed brothers of Henry Christians died, additional info:
Julius Albert, born May 18 1850, died May 19 1850,
Georg Adolph, born June 16 1851, died Dec 9 1851.
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jreichman
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Posted - 15/08/2010 : 21:48:40
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| Thank you. This looks about as far as I can research on Dahle Norwegian side. Am going to attempt to research more on Henry and Alice Dahle's children in Hull. After that, I may try my father's side - his family came from Sweden! - that's probably a whole other website! What would you consider the best sites for research? I'm on Curiousfox uk, GenesReunitedUK and AncestorsUK - anything else you'd recommend? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/08/2010 : 22:00:20
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Not the best graphical interface, but the users are quite experienced and well-informed: Anbrytarforum
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/08/2010 : 07:06:08
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Henrich and Else Dahle were married May 17 1804, see next to the last record in second column.
Else Dahle is there called "Mad. Biorlov". You find her as widow Else Olsdatter Biørløw in 1801.
Else Dahles (Else Olsdatter, Berg) first marriage was with Anders Hansen, Biørlev Dec 16 1795, see 3rd record in left column.
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eibache
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Posted - 17/08/2010 : 22:42:56
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Gunnild Helene Jørgensdatter, Holm, the mother of Henry Christian Dahle, was born Aug 29 1811, see last record on right page. Her parents were Jørgen Clemmetsen, Schiervig and Randi Anthonette Hansdatter.
Jørgen Clemmetsen was born June 1777, see last record on left page. His parents were Clemmet Olsen, Holm and Anne Kistine Olsdatter.
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bdahlerasmussen
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Posted - 22/08/2010 : 17:46:04
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It was very interesting to find some information about Hendrich Christian Dahle, the son of August Theodor Dahle. I have not been able to find anything about him since his confirmation in 1854.
I have been researching the family history of the Dahle family for many years and can trace the name back to app. 1700.
They then lived in Larvik/Frederiksværn - Vesfold county, and worked as "skippers" or captains in the merchant navy, their ships sailing mostly to England and Holland, but also to places far away.
Some of them did very well in society. During the late 1700 century, the sons of Abraham Olsen Dahle moved to Tangen, Drammen.
Abrahams son, Anders Dahle, had a son, Hendrich Christian Dahle - the father of August Theodor. He married Else Olsdatter Berg who previously had been married to Anders Bjørlov.
Hendrich and Else had 3 sons:
Anders Dahle - priest -1805-1899. He is my great-great grandfather.
Christoffer Dahle -1807-1811
August Theodor 1809-1890
Else had 4 children in her first marriage. 2 dies in infancy.
Hendrich worked as a merchant and had a fairly good position in society. Economically I don't think it was that good, but his eldest son got a good education and married into a wealthy family. In1839 Anders had a son named Hendrich Christian, my great grandfather. He and your Henry were cousins and shared the same name and the same year of birth.
August worked as a mate (Re. parish register- the childrens christening). In his marriage he got 7 sons, all except Hendrich/Henry died in childhood.
August stayed as a widower with his brother Anders for some years. Then he remarried. He married Sofie Severine Sørensen in Tangen church 30.05.1880. She was born in Fekkefjord (close to the vicarage Aagaard- Bakke) in 1841. They got 2 children: Gunda Helene in 1880 and Elisabeth Malene in 1884.
August was then 75 years old.
August worked in his late years as a caretaker at Drammen Jernstøperi (iron foundry). and died 23.05 1890 (Tangen).
From 1900 census: Sofie and Gunda Dahle are both living as paupers in Tangen.
If you are interested to know more about our common ancestors, i would be happy to help you.
Bodil
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jreichman
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Posted - 22/08/2010 : 20:02:37
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| I must get this all down on paper, it gets so complicated. As I understand it.... my grandather was Archibald Dahle. His father was Henry Christian Dahle, Henry Christian's father was August. August's fathe was Henrich. Hendrich's father was Anders who was the son of Abraham. Now we're back to the 1700's!! And that's now mentioning any siblings or mothers. I actually have a photo of Archibald but nothing else. I am interested in pursing this further but must get the dates in order. We actually have the same great-great grandfather. How interesting. Norwegian records seem much more detailed than those in England. I'm having quite a time locating any information on my mother's side of the family (Archibald's wife). Why didn't I start this 10 years ago!! Thanks so much. |
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jreichman
Starting member
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Posted - 26/08/2010 : 03:17:43
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Bodil,
Please stay in touch. I'm attempting to transcribe much of the information you have given me. I'd like to learn more about our common relatives. Thanks so much.
Jeri Reichman |
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bdahlerasmussen
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Denmark
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Posted - 26/08/2010 : 10:31:41
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Jeri,
I'am still here. You just say when you are ready for more information.
Bodil
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