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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 13/10/2010 : 19:40:08
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We have a colder climate in Scandinavia, you get uesed to it.
It´s a posibility, many old norse names, modernized, exists both in Scandinavia and England avd vice versa.
The ancient language in England was Anglo Saxony.
There were many Saxe nmames in Norway in the midlegae and earlier, it still exist in Norway, mostly as a surname, but the combination Saxebjørn was very rare.
Sauherad Bygdbok tells that a branch of the Lindheim family may be descendant after the Lenderman family to Ogmund Krøkedans, I have not found any with the name Saxe in that family.
You seems to be well informed.
Apropo mead or ale.
The Emporer in Constantinople imposed restrictions on vine and beer in the Væring Brigade (Varangian guard in English)
Runic inscriptions in Hagia Sophia, Constantinople
Just a thought;
If William the Conqueror had lost at Hastings Oct. 14.1066 against king Harald of England, perhaps your language could had been a modernized edition of Anglo Saxony today.
One of the Runic names is Halfdan, a common name in Norway, the origin is Half Dane
Have a good evening.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 19/10/2010 23:31:50 |
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kpeterson
Junior member
Italy
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Posted - 19/10/2010 : 09:56:55
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Hello Kåre,
I enjoyed seeing the runic inscriptions in Hagia Sofia and never imagined them being there -- thank you for sending them! This mosque has such an interesting history, represented by not only the runic inscriptions, but also early Christian mosaics and the early Islamic influence to the present day. Because of your posting, I have been reading about the Væring -- very interesting history to say the least!
I think that this is a very good point you are making concerning Hastings. Perhaps the Norsemen and Danes lost against the Saxons but because of Norse influence and settlement in northern France, they conquered England anyway! The evolution of the Norse in France came to influence so much in Europe but the influence of Norsemen can be seen through every country they touched which is extraordinary if we think about it, even throughout the Mediterranean.
There is a legend among the Tuareg tribe of the Sahara that lost blue-eyed Crusaders married into a nomadic African tribe. This tribe then migrated to Western Africa and it is said that this is why you find pale-skinned blue and green-eyed people to this day. Their silver work, especially the fibulae are distinctly influenced by northern Europe and look Scandinavian. Of course, this is all speculation but when one sees blue-eyed and pale-skinned people, and especially the silver jewelry it certainly makes you think that this is perhaps true. Rif Mountain Moroccan Berbers have a significant percentage of people compared to the general population with blue or green eyes, even red hair which is unusual.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/10/2010 : 23:22:46
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H Kathy,
intersting to read the myth about the Tuaregs, who knows.
I found a old document from early summer 1195 brought to Norway with a soldier who did service in emporer Alexios III of Byzantum´s Væring army.
Constantinople had changed name to Byzantium, rechanged back to Constantinople later.
The soldier was Reidar Sendemann (Reidar the Messenger) with a request from Alexios III to king Sverre asking for 1200 good soldiers, the document was sealed with the emporers golden seal, see the content of the document here
King Sverre refused the request, it was civil war in Norway, lasted from 1140-1240, Reidar Sendemann enjoyed the kings opponents and became chief in the Bagler party
After the piece treaty between the Bagler party and the Birkebeiner party in 1208 Reidars task in Norway was over, one year earlier he married Margrete Magnusdatter, father king Magnus Erlingsson, Sigurd Jorsalfare Magnusson´s ggrandaughter.
Reidar left Norway with his wife and two ships ab. 1208 to visit Jerusalem, this was 100 years after Margrete´s ggrandfathers king Sigurd and Dag Eilivsson´s 1108-1111 travel.
After been in Jerusalem Reidar returned to Constantinople to serve in the emporers guard.
Reidar Sendemann died in Constantinople 1214.
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Lislcat
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Posted - 20/10/2010 : 17:26:03
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/10/2010 : 20:24:30
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You are right Wanda, Harald Sigurdsson Hardråde lived a vagrant life before he became king of Norway.
Harald´s Saga is available in English in Heimskringla
His corpse was buried in a Monastery that is gone now 1066.
His unmarked grave lies under asphalt at Klostergata 47 "Monastery street 47 in Trondheim almost next to the Cathedral where his older halfbrother Olav Haraldsson "St. Olav" is buried.
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17th-18th century social strata?
