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kithielynn
Junior member
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 Posted - 26/02/2011 : 22:47:05
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| Looking for Alfhild Hjemdahl Birth: Nov. 25, 1888, Norway and mother Ane Bergitte Hjemdahl Birth: May 24, 1861, Norway |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 26/02/2011 : 23:45:04
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Census-1900 for Spink, Union, South Dakota:
Edward Anderson b. Mar 1864 Norway, imm 1885
Annie Anderson b. Jul 1861 Norway, imm 1892
Alfal Anderson b. Nov 1893 Iowa
Carrie Anderson b. Nov 1893 Iowa
Annie Anderson b. Aug 1894 South Dakota
Lena Anderson b. Sep 1895 South Dakota
Alma Anderson b. Nov 1896 South Dakota
Andrew Anderson b. Feb 1898 South Dakota
Dorthy Anderson b. Feb 1898 South Dakota
Mary Anderson b. Mar 1899 South Dakota
Edwin Anderson b. Apr 1900 South Dakota
Aton Anderson b. Apr 1900 South Dakota
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/02/2011 : 01:41:21
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Census-1910 for Emmet, Union, South Dakota list Alfhild Anderson as born 1889 in Norway, and immigrated 1888(!).
Father Edward is listed as a widower, born 1864 in Norway, and immigrated 1881.
Siblings:
Carrie Anderson, b. 1894 Iowa
Annie Anderson, b. 1895 South Dakota
Oline Anderson, b. 1896 South Dakota
Alma Anderson, b. 1897 South Dakota
Anders Anderson, b. 1898 South Dakota
Dorthea Anderson, b. 1898 South Dakota
Marie Anderson, b. 1899 South Dakota
Edwin Anderson, b. 1900 South Dakota
Arthur Anderson, b. 1900 South Dakota
Oscar Anderson, b. 1903 South Dakota
Otto Anderson, b. 1904 South Dakota
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 27/02/2011 01:43:08 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/02/2011 : 02:05:49
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Did she marry her (step?) father?
Census-1920 for Spink, Union county, South Dakota shows this:
Edward Anderson, b 1865 Norway, imm 1888
Alfhild Anderson, b 1889 Norway, imm 1892
Children:
Andrew Anderson, b 1898 South Dakota
Dorthy Anderson, b 1898 South Dakota
Marrie Anderson, b 1900 South Dakota
Arthur Anderson, b 1901 South Dakota
Edwin Anderson, b 1901 South Dakota
Oscar Anderson, b 1903 South Dakota
Otto Anderson, b 1904 South Dakota
Ada E Anderson, b 1912 South Dakota
Ellerd S Anderson, b 1913 South Dakota
Lloyd Anderson, b 1915 South Dakota
Inez Anderson, b 1916 South Dakota
Fern L Anderson, b 1918 South Dakota
Violet V Anderson, b 1920 South Dakota
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 27/02/2011 02:08:09 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/02/2011 : 04:18:53
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What's your source for the Hjemdahl name? And their birthdates?
One Anne Bergitte Hjemdahl became a widow in Kristiansand, Norway in 1891... could she have emigrated to the US the next year with a daughter named Alvhilde?
Her husband:
Tønnes Johan Axelsen Hjemdahl
Birth Date: 1831
Death Date: 18 Mar 1891
Burial Date: 24 Mar 1891, Kristiansand, Vest-Agder, Norway
3 of their children;
1) Anna Beate Hjemdal, born 20 Dec 1877, dead 09 Mar 1883.
2) Stilborn Hjemdahl (Male), born 13 Oct 1884, dead 13 Oct 1884
3) Anna Beate Hjemdal, born 02 Dec 1886
Tønnes Johan Axelsen & Anne Bergitte Hjemdal
Marriage: 22 OCT 1872, Kristiansand, Vest-Agder, Norway
But some questions remains:
1) This Anna Bergitte is born 22-FEB-1853 in Kristiansand... not 1861. #105
2) Did she have a daughter named Alvhilde?
3) Did she emigrate?
Annie Anderson in Spink, Union, South Dakota (census-1900) married Edward Anderson about 1893 in Iowa, so her daughter Alfhild looks to be a child from a previous relationship.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 27/02/2011 13:50:29 |
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kithielynn
Junior member
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Posted - 03/03/2011 : 14:48:33
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| From what I know is that Anne Ane Bergitte Hjemdahl came from Norway with her daughter Alfhild Hjemdahl and married Edward Anderson at Spink, Union county, South Dakota and had eleven children and she died 1906 and he married his stepdaugher Alfhild and had eleven children. I am not sure if the birth date for Anna is correct. I have two dates. One is July 1861 which is not the best source and another birth date of May 24, 1861 and died Dec. 31, 1906 and imm 1892 which comes from my church burial records which could be wrong. And Alfhild I have church burial records that say she was born Nov. 25, 1888 and died Sep. 28, 1981 and imm 1892. I just was not sure if the names are correct and who Anne was married to in Norway and what happened. |
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karenmccrill
New on board
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Posted - 28/01/2019 : 01:31:15
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I am also interested in some information on Alfhild Hjemdahl Berg. Her grandparents are Ove Andreas Olson Berg born 1832 in Nes Bjugn, Norway & Kjersten Kristiansdtr Skanke born December 01, 1833 in Orland, Norway. Do you have any information on that family back in Norway. Annie Bergitte was a daughter to them. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/01/2019 : 01:48:02
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I am going to try and answer your question, but something does not quite seem right in the locations listed earlier in this thread of Kristiansand and your Norwegian location of Ørland. These two areas are at opposite ends of Norway.
Probably the marriage of Ove and Kjersten. Record gives the fathers of the bride and groom
Ove Andreas Olsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Ove Andreas Olsen
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: 1833
Marriage Date: 28 okt 1855 (28 Oct 1855)
Marriage Place: Ørland, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father: Ole Nielsen
Spouse: Kirsten Skanke
FHL Film Number: 307040
Name: Kirsten Skanke
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1832
Marriage Date: 28 okt 1855 (28 Oct 1855)
Marriage Place: Ørland, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father: Christian Skanke
Spouse: Ove Andreas Olsen
FHL Film Number: 307040
Original record is number 35
#35
The family in the 1865 Census on Berg
1865
There is a Anne B born 1861 in the list of children.
A problem here is that the most of the church records for Bjgun were burned in 1924.
But the same family is found in the 1875 Census
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Edited by - AntonH on 28/01/2019 04:03:11 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/01/2019 : 01:57:18
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Probably the baptism record for Ove Andreas born in 1833.
Ove Andreas Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ove Andreas Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 apr 1833
Baptism Date: 28 apr 1833
Baptism Place: , , Sor Trondelag, NorwayOrland
Father: Ole Nielssen
Mother: Ane Birgitha Johansdr
FHL Film Number: 126713
Original record is number 85
#85
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/01/2019 : 02:02:08
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Probably the baptism of Kirsten in 1833
Kirsten Christensen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Kirsten Christensen
[Kirsten Hanssen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 1 jan 1833
Baptism Place: , , Sor Trondelag, NorwayOrland
Father: Christian Hanssen
Mother: Kirsten Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 126713
The original record is number 3
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Edited by - AntonH on 28/01/2019 02:03:52 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/01/2019 : 03:38:14
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I thought I would back up little and see if I am on the right track here before we go off and provide more information on the ancestors of those folks you asked about. This looks like a Anne O Berg emigrating in 1891. However no child is listed along with her,
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Now a Alfhild Berg age 11 did emgirate with the family of Ove O. Berg and his wife in 1892. She is listed as his daughter but your comment would indicate that thet is incorrect and the she is really his granddaughter?
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Now it is possible that this is the family that the Original Poster was asking about and the use of the Hjemdahl name mislead Jan Peter. I have not come across the Hjemdahl name in any of the records for the family from the Trondheim area. |
Edited by - AntonH on 28/01/2019 03:51:13 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/01/2019 : 04:15:31
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So it looks like Alfhild was born out of wed lock on November 25, 1888. He mother was Anne Bergete Ovesdatter and her father was Soforende ? Sivert Andersen.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/01/2019 : 04:44:06
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Well perhaps we are on the right track and the family that you are interested in in Norway is
Kirsten Olsen Næs (Schanche)
Gender: Female
Birth: December 01, 1833
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Christian Hansen Schancke and Kjerstin Andersdatter Grande
Wife of Ove Andreas Olsen Næs
I do not see a lot about Ove Andreas Olsen but the ancestors of Christian Hansen Schancke and his wife Kjerstin Andersdatter Grande are well explored in various online trees. I will give you several links for them. You need to try and find ones that have at least some sources so you can be somewhat assured that they are really accurate.
Geni.com
Hemneslekt.net
brynulf slekt
A word of warning, in many cases people try and connect a family into the noble (adel ) family Skanke, There usually are few reliable sources for such a connection and very little truth to the connection. A book on the Skanke adel family is Skanke ätten by Roger de Robelin that has both its supporters and its detractors. You need to make up your own mind on what to trust. |
Edited by - AntonH on 28/01/2019 22:56:49 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/01/2019 : 09:52:33
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Anton notes the use of the Hjemdal name is misleading but apparently someone in the family thought it was true:
Name Adol Anderson
Event Type Birth
Event Date 21 Jan 1911
Event Place Union, South Dakota, United States
Gender Female
Father's Name Edd Anderson
Mother's Name Alfild Hjemdal
Citing this Record
"South Dakota, Department of Health, Index to Births 1843-1914 and Marriages 1950-2016," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKDD-SLVZ : 11 February 2018), Alfild Hjemdal in entry for Adol Anderson, 21 Jan 1911; citing Birth, Union, South Dakota, United States, South Dakota Department of Health, Pierre.
And also these in the 100 year old births in South Dakota website:
Birth Information for ELLERD ANDERSON
(State File Number: 84546)
File Date: 08/31/1912
Sex: M
Birth Date: 08/28/1912
County: UNION
Mother's Name: AEFILD HJENDAL
Father's Name: ED ANDERSON
Birth Information for LOYD ANDERSON
(State File Number: 109003)
File Date: 07/31/1914
Sex: M
Birth Date: 07/01/1914
County: UNION
Mother's Name: JANE JEMDAHL
Father's Name: ED ANDERSON
Birth Information for * ANDERSON
(State File Number: 146445)
File Date: 04/10/1917
Sex: F
Birth Date: 03/30/1917
County: UNION
Mother's Name: ALFHILD HJEMDAHL
Father's Name: ED ANDERSON
And for the mother's children with Ed Anderson a couple of delayed birth certificates:
Birth Information for ANNIE ANDERSON
(State File Number: 662809)
File Date: 09/01/1944
Sex: F
Birth Date: 08/05/1894
County: UNION
Mother's Name: ANNE BERG
Father's Name: EDWARD ANDERSON
Birth Information for ANDREW ANDERSON
(State File Number: 784557)
File Date: 03/06/1961
Sex: M
Birth Date: 12/08/1897
County: UNION
Mother's Name: ANNE BERG
Father's Name: EDWARD ANDERSON
So Alfild assumed a surname.
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Edited by - jkmarler on 28/01/2019 14:37:03 |
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
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Posted - 28/01/2019 : 13:14:40
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Her mother was Anne Bergete Ovesdatter and her father was Soforende ? Sivert Andersen.
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Soforende must be Søfarende, Seafarer. |
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jkmarler
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