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ldepanian
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 Posted - 30/03/2011 : 20:53:45
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Hi... am trying to locate/confirm family of my husband's Great Grandmother, Bertha Jensen.
From her marriage record to Peter (Niles) Petersen in Chelsea, Massachusetts 1889, it states her parents were Nikoli & Helene.
From her death record in West Boylston, Massachusetts, 1951, it states she was born 7 October 1858 in Oslow.
She immigrated to the U.S. some time in the mid 1880's. So she should, in theory, be on the census records for Norway. However, I have searched the census records but can not find a family which matches up with the names.
Not sure... am I missing something or is there a trick to using the census data? I'm not versed in Norwegian so it's entirely possible I'm just not doing the searches correctly. ;(
Is there a kind soul who might be able to shed some light on Bertha and her family perhaps? Andy help or advise would be very much appreciated.
Thank you,
Linda
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 30/03/2011 : 23:07:39
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Why not refer to your earlier topic?
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ldepanian
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Posted - 30/03/2011 : 23:56:28
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Hello eibache... Thank you for taking the time to respond...not sure though what your message's intent is exactly, but if it's in reference to a post I'd done back in 2008 - I'd honestly forgotten about it before posting this one. I hope I havn't offended in some way for that. I have not yet found Bertha's family in spite of the countless variations I've tried in both the 1865 & 1875 census records. I've done some bit of reading on the naming variations of Norwegian names and tried the 'tricks' of doing multiple name variations - yet no luck.
Again, if you're put off by my second request, I do apologize.
Thank you,
Linda |
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peder
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Hopkins
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ldepanian
Starting member
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Posted - 31/03/2011 : 04:26:27
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| Thank you very much for the tips... have been working on them and though I sitll don't have our Bertha exactly, am hoping your tips will help. Thank you! ;) |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/03/2011 : 08:00:58
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not sure though what your message's intent is exactly
- all info may be of value for the ones trying to help, if you'd clicked on "topic" in my posting, the earlier one would turn up.
I think more info from US may be of value, immigration time, name used, census info, etc.
Finding the right one only searching in the census 1865 and 1875 (if she really was in Oslo) is not very likely. What you find in 1865 is
Bertha 8 years old - one, Schjelderup
Bertha 9 years old - one, Ingebritsdatter
Berthe 8 years old - none
Berthe 9 years old - one, parents Sander Andreas and Berthe Marie
Birthe 8 years old - none
Birthe 9 years old - none
Berta 8 years old - none
Berta9 years old - none
and so on.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/03/2011 : 17:38:07
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Hi,
Something to consider is that a lot of the Berthas from Norway in the US were actually known as Birgit in Norway. If finding a Bertha Jenson doesn't pan out in the census records look for a Birgit Nikolaisdatter instead.
Hilsen,
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ldepanian
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Posted - 05/04/2011 : 03:58:06
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Hi...
Thank you to all who have provided feedback. I really appreciate it.
I've gotten some new information - it would appear that Bertha's father was more likely to be Mikolai - not Nikolai as was transcribed on Bertha's marriage record. I've now found the following family living in Dybvaag on the 1865 census... not a perfect match to be sure, but there are some curious names & dates that I can't help but wonder if it's possible I may have found them. Could it be possible that Amborg's middle name was Helene? Is it possible that the name Bertine became "Bertha" upon her immigration and that she opted to use her father's name of Jensen also upon immigration? Could it be possible that Bertha resided last in Oslo and wasn't actually born there as she'd stated on various documents in the U.S.? Will continue searching of course, but thought I'd put this out there for a sanity check. ;)
This the family I found in Dybvaag: can someone tell me please what the "Lods" signifies? I understand that Gaardb Selveier indicates that this Mikolai was a farmer, but can not find a translation of Lods. And are there any parish records that exist which might help me to discover if the H in Amborg's middle name might be Helene, such as marriage or baptism records for Dybvaag?
Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Mikolai Jensen Husf g Gaardb Selveier Lods 1827 Dybvaag
Amborg H. Gundersdatter hans Kone g 1832 Dybvaag
Bertine Mikolaisdatter deres Datter ug 1858 Dybvaag
Jens M. Mikolaisen deres Søn ug 1863 Dybvaag
Gunder Mikolaisen deres Datter!! ug 1865 Dybvaag
Berte Nilsdatter hans Moder e Føderaad 1793 Dybvaag
Mette Gundersdatter ug Tjenestepige 1835 Dybvaag
Once again, thank you for your feedback. ;)
Linda
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Lester Hanson
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eibache
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Posted - 05/04/2011 : 07:45:25
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Lods is old spelling of los = maritime pilot.
Spelling Dybvaag is today Dybvåg, parish records should be available, but Digitalarkivet is having problems at the moment.
Dybvåg church. (No english available.)
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/04/2011 : 09:01:05
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One Bertine Jensen born 1858 from Dybvaag parish emigrated to New York on Mai 5th, 1888.
Looks like she could be the Bertine Mikolaisdatter found above... 
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eibache
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Posted - 05/04/2011 : 10:26:32
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Mikolais mother Birthe Nielsdatter, see #33.
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Edited by - eibache on 05/04/2011 10:36:53 |
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eibache
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Posted - 05/04/2011 : 13:25:51
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| The baptismal record for Bertine Mikolaisdatter (Jensen) = Bertha Jensen is #92, born Oct 8 1858. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/04/2011 : 16:14:08
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"Bertine Jansen" (30) arrived New York on June 4th, 1888.
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Lester Hanson
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