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ldepanian
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USA
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  18:15:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

1st column - record nr. in this book #92
2nd column - birth date which was Oct 8
3rd column - baptismal date which was Nov 21
4th column - childs full name was Bertine
5th column - born in or out of wedlock (ægte or uægte) says do. = ægte
6th column - parents full name, occupation and residence is Matros (sailor) Mikolai Lourits Jensen og (and) Ingeborg Helene Gundersdatter at Sandøen
7th column - Godparents names - they were Anna Jansdatter, Marte Gundersdatter, Jens Gundersen, Jens Bartinus Jensen, Ola Sewerin Gundersen Sandøen
8th column - whether and by whom baptized at home - baptized at home by Haans Aamundsen
9th column - information related to children born out of wedlock




So I'm looking at the heading for the link and it appears that the record is from Source information: Aust-Agder county, Dypvåg, Parish register (official) nr. A 6 (1855-1872), Birth and baptism records 1859, page 30.
With that information, I'm thinking that Bertine was baptised in Dypvåg, correct? Especially since it also indicates she was baptised at home... and was that a common practice instead of in a church? But I'm confused about where the Sandøen comes in... does that mean that Sandøen is where the parents & Godparents are from or does that mean that's where they were living at the time the baptism took place?

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Lester Hanson
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  19:40:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are two Gunder Jensen's in this time frame.
There is a Gunder married to a Will?? Birgithe Sørensdtr? and another Gunder married to a Berth Margrethe Hanssen Eidboe.

The first Gunder is your relative.
The marriage record I previously gave you of 20 Jan 1826,is not correct.
Sorry, Les
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ldepanian
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  20:05:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lester Hanson

There are two Gunder Jensen's in this time frame.
There is a Gunder married to a Will?? Birgithe Sørensdtr? and another Gunder married to a Berth Margrethe Hanssen Eidboe.

The first Gunder is your relative.
The marriage record I previously gave you of 20 Jan 1826,is not correct.
Sorry, Les



Thanks Les... so does that mean we don't have a Hansen? ;)

Curious about your find though... what is it about the records that makes you think this? Can you send a link to the new record?
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ldepanian
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  20:08:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by ldepanian

quote:
Originally posted by eibache

1st column - record nr. in this book #92
2nd column - birth date which was Oct 8
3rd column - baptismal date which was Nov 21
4th column - childs full name was Bertine
5th column - born in or out of wedlock (ægte or uægte) says do. = ægte
6th column - parents full name, occupation and residence is Matros (sailor) Mikolai Lourits Jensen og (and) Ingeborg Helene Gundersdatter at Sandøen
7th column - Godparents names - they were Anna Jansdatter, Marte Gundersdatter, Jens Gundersen, Jens Bartinus Jensen, Ola Sewerin Gundersen Sandøen
8th column - whether and by whom baptized at home - baptized at home by Haans Aamundsen
9th column - information related to children born out of wedlock




So I'm looking at the heading for the link and it appears that the record is from Source information: Aust-Agder county, Dypvåg, Parish register (official) nr. A 6 (1855-1872), Birth and baptism records 1859, page 30.
With that information, I'm thinking that Bertine was baptised in Dypvåg, correct? Especially since it also indicates she was baptised at home... and was that a common practice instead of in a church? But I'm confused about where the Sandøen comes in... does that mean that Sandøen is where the parents & Godparents are from or does that mean that's where they were living at the time the baptism took place?





Aha! So now I'm looking more closely at the 1865 census and find the translated headings as this:
Distriktsnr. Page School District Parish Parishes Gardening Note (farm) Headline
70 2 43 Sandøe Dybvaag Dybvaag East Sandøe 633 5

Does this mean then that Dybvaag is the Parish where all the records are held and recorded, but they actually physically resided at East Sandoe?
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eibache
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Norway
6495 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2011 :  20:56:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Does this mean then that Dybvaag is the Parish where all the records are held and recorded, but they actually physically resided at East Sandoe?
- yes, and take a look at the map I also made a link for earlier. In this map you find the location of the Dypvåg church and østre Sandøy.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 10/04/2011 21:00:22
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  21:26:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mikolai Laurits Jensen and Amborg Helene Gundersdatter were married March 27 1857, see #13.

Amborg Helene was born Dec 2 1831, see #6. Her parents was Gunder Jensen and Wille Birgithe Sørensdatter, østre Sandøen.

Einar
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ldepanian
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  21:29:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

quote:
Does this mean then that Dybvaag is the Parish where all the records are held and recorded, but they actually physically resided at East Sandoe?
- yes, and take a look at the map I also made a link for earlier. In this map you find the location of the Dypvåg church and østre Sandøy.



Yes, the map link didn't work when I'd tried before. I was on my work laptop then, but just tried this one on my home computer and it works fine - thanks Einar. I see the pins you placed there for me, and that's great. I'm so intrigued by the way of life they must've lead. So different from any of my own experiences at all.... I'm sure it must've been a hard life given the distances they'd need to travel and likely the lack of industry available for work. And yet, I don't think the population was very large either, so they must've worked together and shared many things... a nice small community I would think.

Thanks again Einar! Once more, you came to my rescue! ;)
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ldepanian
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  21:42:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

quote:
Does this mean then that Dybvaag is the Parish where all the records are held and recorded, but they actually physically resided at East Sandoe?
- yes, and take a look at the map I also made a link for earlier. In this map you find the location of the Dypvåg church and østre Sandøy.



The Dypvåg church is beautiful... and would love to travel to Norway one day to see it... that'd be so nice. Am wondering though... was there no church on østre Sandøy?
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ldepanian
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  21:54:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

Mikolai Laurits Jensen and Amborg Helene Gundersdatter were married March 27 1857, see #13.

Amborg Helene was born Dec 2 1831, see #6. Her parents was Gunder Jensen and Wille Birgithe Sørensdatter, østre Sandøen.



Thank you for clearing up the info on Amborg's parents Einar!

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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 10/04/2011 :  23:07:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gunder Jensen, østre Sandøen (26 years old) and Wille Birgithe Sørensdatter, østre Sandøen (23 years old) were married Nov 8 1822, see #11.

Gunder Jensen was baptized Nov 6 1796, see #39, his parents were Jens Aasulsen and Ingebor Iversdatter, Sandøen.

Wille Bergithe Sørensdatter was baptized Oct 13 1899, see #39, her parents were Søren Willesen and Mette Olsdatter, østre Sandøen.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 10/04/2011 23:26:51
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