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PamHinds
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 Posted - 03/05/2011 : 04:22:20
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Hello, I'd like to know if anyone has information on my great grandfather ...
Olaf Amundsen, born April 29th, 1883
Parents are Olaf Amundsen and Marn Olsen
He immigrated to the US at the age of 11, through Ellis Island on June 8th, 1893
He traveled on the ship named Thingvalla and port of departure was Christiania
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 06:18:21
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I can find an Olaf Amundsen arriving on June 8th, 1893 on the Thingvalla, but he is travelling with his parents who are Nils and Anna. Is the Olaf you mean?
Name:
Olaf Amundsen
Arrival Date:
8 Jun 1893
Birth Year:
abt 1882
Age:
11
Gender:
Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality:
Norwegian
Port of Departure:
Christiania
Port of Arrival:
New York, New York
Ship Name:
Thingvalla
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 06:23:44
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Here is this family listed in the Emigrants of Kristiania. They are listed as being from Drammen.
Emigrants
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 06:37:46
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Olaf, his parents and siblings with Thingvalla in 1893, see 128466-71.
His parents were Nils and Anna.
No other Olaf Amundsen, 11 years old left from Christiania in 1893.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 09:32:30
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quote:
Olaf Amundsen, born April 29th, 1883
Parents are Olaf Amundsen and Marn Olsen
- where did you get this info? |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 03/05/2011 15:22:04 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 12:50:26
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Nowegian naming practice is difficult.
The names for the emigration don´t correspond where Olafs father is laborer Nils Amundsen and the mother is Anna.
You have Olaf Amundsen and Maren Olsen (Olsdatter)
I have a candidate for you, the name Olaf M. born April 29. 1883 correspond.
Olaf Martin born in Vestre Aker parish, Oslo April 29. 1883, bap. August 5.
parents factoryworker Ole (Olaf) Amundsen and Maren Sophie Christiansen, see #59
The birth records for his 3 siblings will be helpful.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 03/05/2011 13:08:06 |
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PamHinds
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 14:33:03
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Thank you Everyone ... very helpful! I will be looking at all the links this morning.
As for the information, all of it came from two good sources. I started with my grandmother's birth/death here in the US. That info came from my mother, then confirmed by the state of her death. Her birth in Maine, I gave to a woman online for the 'vital records' in Maine and she gave the rest really.
She has Olaf and Christine being married in Portland, ME on Jan 16th, 1904. My grandmother born from them. Then in 1910 US Census, she found the 3 of them in a boarding house in CT. She also found the birth of my grandmother's sister, in Springfield, MA. Then Olaf's early death at age 32 (can I send a picture through - I have his death certificate) And a William Olsen filled out the death certificate. How he is associated with the wife, I don't know.
Everything that the woman from vital records sent me, said his birthdate as I stated, and that both Olaf and Christine, immigrated to the US from Norway. She suggested Ellis Island. The records they have, only have the one Olaf Amundsen that matches his birthdate, that follows through on the US side here.
I can see how difficult this can be ... My mother said my grandmother, Olaf's first daughter, told her that we were related to Roald Amundsen. That her father told her this (Olaf to Caroline to Beverly (my mom)). Any thoughts on that?
The Ellis Island info might not be the correct match, as I did that research. But like I said, it was the only Olaf that matched my great grandfathers birthdate.
How can I send the death certificate? Does anyone want to see it? It's a jpeg. |
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PamHinds
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 14:36:28
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To Eibache:
The info of the parents is on the death certificate of Olaf. |
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janrm
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 15:28:48
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Hi all!
Had a quick look at the Parish register for Olaf's birth. He is baptised at home May 1 by a Birgitte Rasmussen, I am however not sure whether she is farmor ("gran") or jordmor (midwife)..... |
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PamHinds
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 15:43:31
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I received an email, that janrm (above) and eibache replied to the post. I see janrm's reply, but eibache doesn't show up.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 15:56:40
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| I tried to get a jpeg in my reply, did not work so I deleted the reply. |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 03/05/2011 15:59:19 |
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PamHinds
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 16:07:14
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Everyone ... I looked at the links and they all relate to the same Olaf Amundsen, though I don't think that is my great grandfather ... Let's skip the Ellis Island, because the link doesn't seem to be the same. Does anyone have Olaf with the information I gave? Maybe look through Roald's brother's? As I was told that was the link.
Thanks eibache, got your email about deleting reply. I will send you the jpeg, as you sent your email address in the body of the email. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 16:38:12
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Info from the death certificate indicates he was married, but no name of wife is given - the marriage certificate should give more info on his parents.
Name is given as just Olaf Amundsen (not Olaf M Amundsen) - his recidence was 171 Pendleton Ave, Springfield Mass. - informant of info was William Olsen, 171 Pendleton Ave - who was he?
Would more info be available from censuses in US? - imigration year, did he come alone or with parent(s)?
More info along these lines would be very beneficial. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 16:50:28
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Hi,
"...I can see how difficult this can be ... My mother said my grandmother, Olaf's first daughter, told her that we were related to Roald Amundsen. That her father told her this (Olaf to Caroline to Beverly (my mom)). Any thoughts on that?..."
There have been a few people on this forum over the past couple of years who have written with the same family story of a connection to Roald Amundsen. Some have had some connection and a number haven't. Sometimes families have developed a mythology about their origins which, upon examination, doesn't have a basis in fact.
Why have you rejected the Olaf mentioned by Kċre or indeed the search results by others on this site? It seems suspiciously like you are rejecting these ideas because you have already determined that the Roald Amundsen story must be true. I'd suggest that you gather all the records and let the records speak for themselves. The truth usually becomes more clear when you step back from a pre-conceived notion. Family stories often contain a kernel of truth and should be considered but often the kernel is no bigger than a grain of sand.
You might want to read the whole oevre of work here on Roald Amundson descendants in the prior posts to see if your Olaf fits in anywhere. There are names of Roald Amundsen researchers listed in the posts, you might write to them to find if they have a missing Olaf.
Good Luck
Jackie M.
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PamHinds
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Posted - 03/05/2011 : 18:29:37
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Hello ... jkmarler, I've read your post and honestly, a connection to Roald is not what I am after. I'm really after my grandmother's roots. Caroline Otilia (or some form of that name) Amundsen.
The reason I dispute the connection that everyone has put forth - actually, I shouldn't say I dispute it, more that it doesn't fit in - is that the researcher here in the US has connected Olaf Amundsen, to my grandmother as her father. With his parents being Olaf Amundsen and Marn Olsen.
I was asking about Roald, just to change the direction from Ellis Island, as I don't know if that was my grandfather or not, it fits for birth and possible immigration timeline, but the parents don't fit. If his wife is Marn Olsen, and the person who filled out the death certificate, and lived with them while they were married, William Olsen, must have filled it out as he had knowledge, or the wife told him what to put in. I can't imagine that the parents are inaccurate. And that's the reason I wanted to research this more.
In the next reply, I am going to copy and paste what I received from the vital records woman here in the US. If I am missing something, let me know. Is it possible that he changed him whole name when he arrived in the US? Honestly, that's why I am asking to research a different route. |
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janrm
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Olaf M Amundsen - Born April 29, 1883
