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SusanArnold
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 Posted - 05/05/2011 : 21:03:50
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Seeking records on my grandparents Lewis (Lars) Rohde/Rody or Rote and wife Ingre (Gerald/Jerald) who had emigrated from Voss farms in Norway abt 1901 (Lars may have been to U.S. earlier), and later lived in Black Brook, Polk county, Wisc. area in early 1900's. They had 5 children, Martha (b. 1901), Theodor, Edwin, and twins Ida Louise and Oscar (b. 1913 - my mom and uncle). Lewis supposedly died in July 1917 after being struck by lightening in Deronda, Wisc. and later Inger and children moved to Ludington, Mich. in the early 1920's. Her death record only shows her father's name listed as "Gerald" and mother's name unknown. I don't know for sure if grandparents were both born in Voss or any circumstances about their extended families, if any. My mother is now 97 and can only recall a married sister of Lewis named Kari Jurness who also lived in Polk county, Wisc.with her husband Mads and chidren during same time period. Also interested in any school or church records of my grandparents in Norway or their children in Wisc. for any time period.
Thanks,
Sue |
Sue Hardin |
Edited by - SusanArnold on 30/05/2011 06:05:43 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 21:56:17
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As a start;
Normally Lars became Lewis in the US.
Gerald could be Gerhard, 600 with firstname Gerhard and ab. 60 with lastnames Gerhardsen in Norway in 1865.
Ingeborg is a 100% Norwegian name.
4 persons with lastname Rhode lived in Brevik municipalty, Telemark County, Norway in 1900, 110 with lastname Rode in 1900.
Rode could have been Rhode in the US.
Some few changed names beyond recognition.
Kåre
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Edited by - Kåarto on 05/05/2011 21:57:01 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 22:23:52
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Since Voss farms is mentioned Gerald could be a farmname Gjerald. In the 1875 census an Ingebjørg was living at one of the Gjerald farms.
In 1901 a Lars Torkelsen Rody, american citizen, had been in Norway on a visit, he was married to Inger.
A total of 40 persons emigrated from Voss in
1897.
Some more studies in US would be helpful. |
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Edited by - eibache on 05/05/2011 22:30:18 |
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hasto
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Norway
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Posted - 05/05/2011 : 22:36:07
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Lars Torkelsen Rødde, born 1868, in 1875 census and in 1900 census
His family in 1865 census
His sister Maria died 1935
Inger Endresdatter Gjerald, born Sept 3 1876
Her family in 1875 census
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4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 05/05/2011 23:43:46 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/05/2011 : 07:53:49
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Lars was born July 31 1868, see #155.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/05/2011 : 17:59:24
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Hi,
How about Jorness = Gjernes?
In the 1900 Norwegian census for Lars above he is living with a family headed by a Mads and Kari Torkelsdatter Gjernes.
In the usgenweb Wisconsin archives the headstones of the Deronda Lutheran Cemetery at Deronda, Wisconsin has this listing for a Lars Rohde:
Lars Rohde b. 29 July 1868 d. 25 June 1917
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Kari Gjernes b. 29 Nov 1862 d. 27 Mar 1965
Birthdate pretty close and he did die 1917 and is buried at Deronda.
Hilsen,
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SusanArnold
Junior member
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Posted - 06/05/2011 : 20:53:06
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| Thank you so much for this new info and I'm still confused about why the U.S. names were hard to trace but have not had much practice with geneology searches before now, other than what I could find on Ancestry site. I would really like to find out how much Norwegian I am as not sure where (Lars) was born, or if he might have had English or German or other heritage? Also confused about Lars Rodde listed in 1900 census with his sister and family, but perhaps he made trip alone. His first daugher Marthina was born in Wisc. in 1901. |
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Edited by - SusanArnold on 06/05/2011 21:43:51 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/05/2011 : 21:56:50
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I think you can rely on that Lewis Rohde is the same person as Lars Torkelsen Rody in the emigrants listing. He was a blacksmith, born 1868, was a US citizen (means he had been in us before the emigration year 1901) and he was married to Inger Endresdatter (Endresdtr.) Rody born in 1876. See here.
The census 1900 show Lars Torkelsen, Rødde as a bachelor, visiting at his sister Karis house, living in Visconsin, Nord Amerika. See 1900. (The sister Kari Torkelsdatter Gjernes must be the same as "Kari Jorness who also lived in Polk county, WI")
Lars also had a brother Anders, born 1857 living at the Rødde farm.
The census 1900 also show Inger Endresdatter as an unmarried servant at the farm Gjerald, see 1900.
At this census you see Ingers father Endre Eiriksen, born 1824, Ingers mother Ingebjørg Eiriksdatter, born 1836 as well as Ingers brother Eirik Endresen, born 1874, and sister Marta Endresdatter, born 1869. Other siblings may live at other farms.
Lars sister Kari emigrated in 1904, with 3 children. Her husband had emigrated earlier, see 1902.
Kari Torkelsdatter (= Kari Jorness or Gjernes) born Nov 29 1862, see #230. |
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 07/05/2011 00:07:54 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 00:42:25
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Lars Torkelsens parents and siblings in 1865.
Martha Andersdatter is Torkel Pedersens 3rd wife, their children were
Maria, Anders, Knut, Kari, Lars.
Children with 2nd wife Maria Sjursdatter were Sjur and Malina.
Child with 1st wife Gjertru Christophersdatter was Anders.
Widower Torkel Pedersen and Martha Andersdatter were married July 6 1854, see #13.
Torkel Pedersen was then 43 years and his father was Peder Johnsen.
Martha Andersdatter was 25 years, came from Gjerre and her father was Anders Andersen, Taulen.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 05:35:39
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Hi,
Here is a spot of information from the Wisconsin State Historical Society website containing pre 1907 vitals:
Name Type Date County
Rohde, Theodore Edwin Birth Jun 18 1904 Polk
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/vitalrecords/
There are a total of over 400 Rohde entries. You may want to try look for a record for Marthina's birth there. It seems unlikely that Marthina was actually born in 1901 as she is not listed as coming with her parents in 1902. Little mix-ups like this concerning her birthdate are always possible when dealing with people's memories, census listings with estimated birth dates, etc.
Another place to look for birth information would be a church where Marthina might have been baptized --Deronda Lutheran?
You may want to contact Chris Larson who has Mads Gjernes and Kari Thorkildsdatter in a just recently updated database at rootsweb:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=norskmom&id=I3891
Good Luck
Jackie M. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 07/05/2011 05:43:34 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 07:06:26
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quote:
It seems unlikely that Marthina was actually born in 1901 as she is not listed as coming with her parents in 1902.
- the parents left Norway in 1901, see above.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 09:45:24
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Census-1905 for Lincoln, Polk, Wisconsin:
Louis Rhode 34y
Ingre Rhode 27y
Martha Rhode 3y
Theodore Rhode 1y
Btw; the 1901 New York arrival shows their final destination as Chicago, Ill. A bit strange, since the Norwegian 1900-census list Lars living in Wisconsin.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 07/05/2011 09:49:05 |
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SusanArnold
Junior member
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 19:38:57
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Thanks for checking again as I had seen the listing awhile back, so was curious about the dates since wasn't sure if grandfather Lars (Lewis) had been in U.S. before he married Ingre. Also had seen Illinois listed somewere so figured they might have been there for awhile before they settled in Polk county later (guess they lived in Lincoln before Black Brook). Widowed Inge and children later moved to Ludington, Mich. after 1920. Oldest daughter Martha later married Benjamin Tillung, who also had family from Voss, but he had been born in Wisc.
I'm thinking Lars must have been to U.S. before 1901 (my mom had thought was 1897), but may have returned with wife and sister's family. Have also learnied the census takers didn't always get names right, as one for 1910 listed wife (Inge?) as "Mrs. Griegs" which was confusing, as sounded like some other relative helping with household or something!
ps - I bet Theodore was named after the current Pres.
quote]Originally posted by jwiborg
Census-1905 for Lincoln, Polk, Wisconsin:
Louis Rhode 34y
Ingre Rhode 27y
Martha Rhode 3y
Theodore Rhode 1y
Btw; the 1901 New York arrival shows their final destination as Chicago, Ill. A bit strange, since the Norwegian 1900-census list Lars living in Wisconsin.
Jan Peter
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Edited by - SusanArnold on 30/05/2011 20:59:23 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/05/2011 : 21:10:01
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TILLUNG, MARTHA 22 Dec 1901 Dec 1975 73-74 91790 (West Covina, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified) California 561-70-6698
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SusanArnold
Junior member
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Posted - 08/05/2011 : 01:38:45
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thanks but already knew most of my Aunt Martha stats, as lived near their family in So. Calif. when younger. She had lived in Chicago after marriage and had 2 children, Eleanor and Kenneth. (Kenneth is only one still living, besides my mom!).
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Originally posted by jwiborg
TILLUNG, MARTHA 22 Dec 1901 Dec 1975 73-74 91790 (West Covina, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified) California 561-70-6698
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eibache
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Posted - 08/05/2011 : 06:44:21
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quote:
I'm thinking Lars must have been to U.S. before 1903 and may have returned with wife and sister's family.
for correct years see my posting 06/05/2011 : 21:56:50.
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Problems with Lewis Rohde ancestry from Voss farms
