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eibache
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 Posted - 13/05/2011 : 06:52:56
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but then another census showed her mother Ingebjorg was married to Ole Knutson, which was after my grandmother Inger Endresdtr was born and parents were Ingebjorg and Endre Erickssen!
- Ingebjørg who was married to Olav (Ole) Knutson, Rokne was Ingers (Ingjerds) sister.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 13/05/2011 : 11:15:45
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Inger Endresdatter Gjerald/Rødde´s brother Eirik Endersen b. 1874 inherit Gjerald in 1900, he married Sept. 23. 1902 Anne Eriksdatter b. 1877 Himle.
The family on Gjerald 1910, 5 children, Ingebjørg 1902, Anna 1904, Maria 1905, Endre 1907 and Eirik 1909.
Eriks parent´s Endre 1824, ingebjørg 1837 and a servant girl Ingebjørg.
Voss cemetery, write Gjerald in third column and enter SØK.
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397941- Eirik Gjerald d. 1993
397942 - Anna E. Gjerald d. 1997
397943 - Maria Gjerald d. 1989
397944 - Endre Gjerald d. 1980
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SusanArnold
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Posted - 13/05/2011 : 19:27:26
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| so many with same name I guess.... maybe the servant girl was not same Inge as my grandmother then? thought the Ingeborg born in 1857 was her mother? were there possibly some errors on census reports? |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 13/05/2011 : 19:39:59
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Yes,
your grandmother Inger Endresdatter b. 1876was servant girl on Gjerald in 1900, the servant girl in 1910 was Ingeborg Torsteinsdatter from farm Gjelland b. 1890.
Total 37 Gjerald buried in Voss cemenety.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 01:22:09
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Inger was employeed or worked for her brother/parents as "Tjenestepige".
The word "Tjenestepige" is often translated to Servant girl, maybe another more nuanced than the word servant can be used.
The word "Tjene" mean to serve, work, earn and has been used on people who worked on farms in all times and was not a demeaning/degrading word, still exist colloquially.
Inger was "Tjenestepige" a housemaid, often translated to servant girl.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 14/05/2011 09:34:08 |
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SusanArnold
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 05:06:21
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ok, I guess "servant" was a common job title back then. I'm stll trying to figure out who Ingebjørg b. 1857, who married 1879 to Olav Knutson Rokne? Is she Inger's sister or mother or someone else, and is Rokne a farm name, and is it another spelling for Rodde? (could she have been "another Ingeborg" from Lars Torkelssens Rodde farm)... or was there possibly some error in dates in the census reports?
my grandmother would be Inger Endersdatter born 3 Sept. 1876... and Lars Torkelssen was born July 1868.
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Edited by - SusanArnold on 14/05/2011 05:08:44 |
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eibache
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 06:35:03
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I'm stll trying to figure out who Ingebjørg b. 1857, who married 1879 to Olav Knutson Rokne?
- information in Vossaboki says she is Ingers (Ingjerds) sister.
Here is the proof:
Ingebjørg (= Ingeborg) was born Dec 10 1857, see #11, parents Endre Eriksen, Gjerald and Ingeborg (= Ingebjørg) Eriksdatter.
She married Ole (= Olav) Knutsen (= Knutson), Rokne May 27 1879, see #6.
Rokne is a farmname.
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eibache
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 06:46:46
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my grandmother would be Inger Endersdatter born 3 Sept. 1876... and Lars Torkelssen was born July 1868.
- your grandmother Inger Endresdatter, see #163.
your grandfather Lars Torkelsen was born July 31 1868, see #155.
Lars parents and siblings in 1865.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 10:46:15
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Olav Knutsen Rokne and your grandmother Inger´s sister Ingebjørg Endresdatter Gjerald recieved Deed of property on Gjerald (farm nr 6) from her father in 1896 for 2800 Kroner, they got no children but a fosterdaughter Anna Pedersdatter b. 1894.
Olav died 1921 and Ingebjørg 1929.
Fosterdaughter Anna married carpenter Johannes Knutsen Himle in 1919, they recieved Deed of property on Gjerald, farm 6, same year as they married for 4000 Kroner.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 14/05/2011 10:47:06 |
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SusanArnold
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 07:34:01
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Originally posted by eibache
From Vossaboki (part 4) you will find Inger and her siblings:
Ingebjørg b. 1857, married 1879 to Olav Knutson Rokne,
Gudve b. 1859, married 1887 to Steffa Larsson Rokne,
Anna b. 1867, married 1893 to Per Knutson Jerald,
Marta b. 1869, married 1902 to Olav Klasson Vele,
Brita b. 1871,
Eirik b. 1874 and
Inger (named Ingjerd) b. 1876.
ok, thought I knew all I needed about grandmother Inger, but who was Per Knutson Jerald who her sister Anna married, as that was her last name also (farm), or was there another Jerald family? |
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eibache
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 08:07:33
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In 1900 there were 7 farms named Gjerald (Jerald) Per (Peder) Knutson (Knutssøn) and Anna were at one of them, see Bruksnr 4.
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Edited by - eibache on 18/05/2011 08:09:51 |
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SusanArnold
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 11:18:08
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| Thought there was only one! how many for Rodde/Rote or Rode farm? They were from Voss, grandfather Lars Torkelsen or Torkel Pedersen family? |
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eibache
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 14:55:55
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There was one main farm, Gjerald (nr 215) and this farm was subdivided into 7 smaller farms (Bruksnr.) - see 1900.
The Rødde farm was devided in two (bruksnr.) in 1900.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 15:14:53
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.............Widowed Inge and children later moved to Ludington, Mich. after 1920. Oldest daughter Martha later married Benjamin Tillung, who also had family from Voss, but he had been born in Wisc.
Vossalaget, Madison, Wisconsin 1922, Benjamin Tillung, his parents and two brothers are on page 9&10
Vossingen 1920-1950 online if you´re bored on day here
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Kåarto
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 20:23:55
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Lars Torkelsens father Torkel Pedersen, widower on Qvarme/ Kvarme when he married Martha Andersdatter July .6. 1854
Torkel Pedersen´s first wife Maria Sjursdatter was from farm Selje. Torkel was from farm Hole, Torkel was 30 and Maria 28 when they married June 12. 1842, #15
They got one son, Torkel had a son b. 1839 before he married Maria, both were ab. one generation older than their halfbrother Lars Torkelsen Rødde /Louis Rohde.
1) Anders Torkelsen born March 3. out of wedloc 1839, bap. Marc 28 (mother was Giartru Christoffersdatter)
2) Peder Torkelsen b. Jan. 19. bap. Feb. 12. 1843
1) Anders; blacksmith on Taulen 1865 with his father, stephmother and halfsiblings, he married 1866 to Brytteva Larsdatter Sundves b. 1843, 14 children.
Voss 1900
Miller and cottager Anders Torkelsen and Brytteva with three of the childre on Sunveshaugene
In 1910 youngest daughter Malene b. 1889 lived with the parents Anders T. Sundve and Brytteva Larsdatter on Sundveshaugene.
Malene married Johanneds Elias Olsen Myklebust April 29. 1920.
Anders Torkelsen died 1911.
2) Peder; lived on Kvarmehaugen married to Sigrid Olsdatter in 1865, three children, total 8 children.
Peder Torkelsen died 1887 on farm Kvårmo.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 18/05/2011 23:51:25 |
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Problems with Lewis Rohde ancestry from Voss farms
