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Nettierud
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Kåarto
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 Posted - 13/05/2011 : 21:40:01
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the parents;
Lars Olsen Norbye and Marthe Olsdatter.
Godparents from Nordbye and Melbye.
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Nettierud
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Posted - 13/05/2011 : 21:43:03
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| Thank you Jan, yes that's the link for Lars Larsen's birth and the question is- can I find Lar's Olsen's parentage or that of his wife Marthe Olesdatter? |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/05/2011 : 21:47:05
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Lars Larsen, son of Lars Olsen and Marthe Olsdatter
b 14 Feb 1824 (Nannestad bp)
d 11 June 1900 (Nannestad bur)
Lars Larsen was born at "Nordbye St. westre", that is, a husmannsplass belonging to Nordby vestre in Nannestad Parish. At the time of his marriage he was at Homble. In the early years of their marriage, Lars and Karen lived at Grinda. Then he became husmann at Bråten under Rud øde, apparently in 1856. By 1874 they had moved to Snatet under Herberg; the census of 1875 says "leases a piece of land, makes a living partly at lumbering and partly by doing day labor for farmers". When they died, they were living with their daughter Anne Maria's family at Nordbjerke.
Children:
i Lina b 15 Aug 1850
ii Anne Maria b 2 Jan 1854
iii Anton b 22 May 1857
iv Ole Christian b 23 March 1860
v Olavus b 14 April 1863, d 15 Feb 1864
vi Olavus b 1 Nov 1865
Source
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Nettierud
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 01:53:10
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Thanks Jan. I have a copy of that as well, just trying to see if I can go back another generation.
One of the godparents Niels Olsen Nordbye is on the 1801 census on the Nordbye farm. Can I jump to the conclusion that he is a brother to Lars? Were the godparents usually close relations? |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 04:01:24
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You should never jump to conclusions. Look for the evidence to prove or disprove your theory.
If they were brothers their birth/baptismal records should show the same parents or at least one identical parent. |
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eibache
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 07:30:52
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Lars Olsen and Marthe Olsdatters first child, named Ole was confirmated 1831, see #427, he was born July 13 1813, see 1st record on left page.
In the confirmation record is said that parents were married ?? Sept 15. Unfortunately in the marriage records for this time span, bride and grooms parents are not given.
If it can be of help Lars and Marthe also had a son Christopher April 19 1819, see #222 and a son Hans Sept 10 1821, see #325.
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Nettierud
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Posted - 14/05/2011 : 14:01:43
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| Thank-you Eibache- that is helpful. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/05/2011 : 23:49:17
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Have you tried the Bygdebøker for Nannestad. There appear to be four volumes in the UND Collection.
Kirkeby, B. Nannestad bygdebok, v. 1 1962 DL596.N3 K56 Farms |
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Nettierud
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Posted - 17/05/2011 : 00:11:34
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| I'm sorry Lyndahl, I don't understand what that is or where to find it. |
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 00:07:16
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I was at the University of Minnesota Library today. They also have a copy of Nannestad Bygdebok vol I. The section on Nordby is quite long and while by no means did I do an exhaustive search of the book, the only part I found that seemed to fit your Lars Olsen and Marte Olsdatter is as follows. From page 131.
NORDBYSTUA under Søgarn. Lars Olsen var husmann i 1816. Året etter var det en husmann til, Torer Gulbrandsen, og en innerst smed Lars Embrestsen (se Vestbyeiet og Kjønstadeiet) pa Søgarn. Torer bodde trolig i en plass på ROGNERUDSLETTA. Alle tre bodde under Søgarn til etter 1820. Men i 1830-åra det bare en husmann på garden. Lars Olsen ble 1814 g m Marte Olsd. enke i Kåråsen. Sjøl var Lars på Ramstadeiet i 1814. Det bodde en husmann Lars Olsen, g m Marte Olsd., på Nordbyeiet i Holter også, så det er ikke godt å holde de to fra hverandre. (Kåråsen var dessuten plass under Nordby da.) I 1830-åra var Håken Nilsen husmann, og var det til ca. 1845. Han var far Åseiet, f 1801, g 1826 m Dorte Gundbrandsd. Som visstnok var fra Hegli, f 1802.
Perhaps someone can take the above information and find a marriage record for Lars and Marte. Notice also that this author comments on at least one other Lars Olsen and Marte Olsdatter and the difficulty of distinguishing between the two. |
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Nettierud
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 00:28:32
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First of all thank you for doing this for me. I don't speak Norwegian so I'm trying to cypher through it. Is the comment about the confusion in names where he refers to the Ramstad
name? I noticed in the birth record of their first son Ole in 1813 that the farm suffix was Heggerlie or similar.
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Originally posted by lyndal40
I was at the University of Minnesota Library today. They also have a copy of Nannestad Bygdebok vol I. The section on Nordby is quite long and while by no means did I do an exhaustive search of the book, the only part I found that seemed to fit your Lars Olsen and Marte Olsdatter is as follows. From page 131.
NORDBYSTUA under Søgarn. Lars Olsen var husmann i 1816. Året etter var det en husmann til, Torer Gulbrandsen, og en innerst smed Lars Embrestsen (se Vestbyeiet og Kjønstadeiet) pa Søgarn. Torer bodde trolig i en plass på ROGNERUDSLETTA. Alle tre bodde under Søgarn til etter 1820. Men i 1830-åra det bare en husmann på garden. Lars Olsen ble 1814 g m Marte Olsd. enke i Kåråsen. Sjøl var Lars på Ramstadeiet i 1814. Det bodde en husmann Lars Olsen, g m Marte Olsd., på Nordbyeiet i Holter også, så det er ikke godt å holde de to fra hverandre. (Kåråsen var dessuten plass under Nordby da.) I 1830-åra var Håken Nilsen husmann, og var det til ca. 1845. Han var far Åseiet, f 1801, g 1826 m Dorte Gundbrandsd. Som visstnok var fra Hegli, f 1802.
Perhaps someone can take the above information and find a marriage record for Lars and Marte. Notice also that this author comments on at least one other Lars Olsen and Marte Olsdatter and the difficulty of distinguishing between the two.
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/05/2011 : 01:59:44
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This is the sentence that I was referring to.
Det bodde en husmann Lars Olsen, g m Marte Olsd., på Nordbyeiet i Holter også, så det er ikke godt å holde de to fra hverandre.
I would think it translates close to this
There llived a husmann Lars Olsen married to Marte Olsdatter at Nordbyeiet in Holter also, so that it is not easy to distinguish between them.
Here is a fairly useful translation site.
http://www.wikiled.com/norwegian-english-holde-Default.aspx |
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