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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 05/10/2011 : 00:52:03
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Here is the arrival document for Constance. On the manifest for nearest relative in homeland she lists her mother as Johanna Nordby, Nordby Nesodden and her destination as Chicago and her last residence as Christiana.
Name: Kanstanie Jansgaard
Arrival Date: 10 Aug 1912
Birth Year: abt 1892
Birth Location: Norway
Birth Location Other: christian
Age: 20
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Celtic
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 01:31:56
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Hi Kent,
Have you ever looked for Hans' half-siblings before?
Carl Adolph Bjornstad became Hans Berg's son-in-law sometime during 1920-1921. But he also was a witness for Hans Berg's naturalization document you mentioned from 1908. Hans' daughter didn't come to US until 1912. So he had some interest in Hans before.
Carl Adolph's father is named Martin O. Bjornstad. In the 1900 census his date of birth is given as April 1858 and that he came to US in 1881 and in Carl Adolph's passport application (in 1921) it says Martin stayed from 1880 onward in Dane County, Wisconsin. I think he might be worth pursuing.
I searched for an obit in the Rowberg Biographical File for Hans Berg today but found none for the man from Wisconsin--lots of others but not the Dane county guy. Same result for Hans Norby / Nordby. There was however an obit for a Mrs. Hans Berg, originally published in the Minneapolis Tidende 23 Nov 1933. The age seemed a bit off and dates seem wacky too but here is the text:
"Mrs. Hans Berg, født Furseth, en af de ældre og bedst kjendte kvinder i Stoughton, er afgaat ved Døden, 72 aar gammel. Hun har født i Norge og kom dertil som ung med sine forældre. Var først gift med J Stokke som døde for et Snes aar tiden og blev i 1915 gift med Hans Berg, der overlever hende sammen med 6 døtre og 3 sønner af første Ægteskab og to brødre og tre søstre."
Jackie M. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2011 : 03:35:01
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Thiniking about Jackie' s post on the half brothers. Here is a Hans Hansen Berg coming back from a trip to Norway. He states that he has been to America twice previous to this trip, once in 1882 and once in 19??. The where is answered with Stoughton Wisconsin. For the column of who he is going to see he puts in brother Martin Olsen in Stoughton Wisconsin. Must be one of the half brothers that Kent listed if we have the right man.
Name: Hans Hansen Berg
Arrival Date: 27 Jun 1907
Birth Year: abt 1871
Birth Location Other: hedmathen
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Southampton
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oceanic
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2011 : 03:53:56
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This is the only Martin Olson in Dane County in 1900 US Census that fits the data for the brother ? of Hans Hansen Berg.
Name: Martin Olson
Home in 1900: Pleasant Springs, Dane, Wisconsin
[Pleasant Springs, Dane, Wisconsin]
Age: 40
Birth Date: Apr 1860
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Spouse's Name: Annie Olson
Marriage year: 1883
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 17
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members: Name Age
Martin Olson 40
Annie Olson 41
Sophia Olson 16
Oscar Olson 14
Annie Olson 13
Henry Olson 12
Lottie Olson 10
Inga Olson 6
Clara Olson 4
Hilda Olson 2
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kent ryen
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 08:32:02
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Wow, you guys are amazing!! I guess I just never even considered there might be a link with half-brother Martin, but it seems there are just too many leads pointing in that direction for that theory to be dismissed. Here are a couple of extra supporting facts:
-Martin Olsen (b. 13 April 1859) was living at Bjørnstad, Nes, Hedmark, at the time of his confirmation in 1875 (no. 25; http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6022&idx_id=6022&uid=ny&idx_side=-15), so that's where the Bjørnstad name comes from
-He was registered as emigrated to America on 11 July 1882 (no. 44, http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6023&idx_id=6023&uid=ny&idx_side=-21). Have not been able to find his departure record, though.
So if this is true, that means Constance married her half-cousin? Interesting - but not unheard of in those days, I suppose.
A couple of more things, perhaps on the more speculative side;
-Hans' father was dead at the time of the Norwegian census in 1891 (1 January). I have not managed to find his death record, but assuming it may have happened just right before, this may help explain why Hans must have been in Norway around mid-April that year (considering Constance was born in Jan the following year).
-At the time of the census, mother Karen was a tenant and day laborer, living with her daugther, and was partly living on poverty aid from the municipality. Nine years later, in the 1900 census, she owns her own house and has herself tenants. Where did the money come from? Could it be that Hans sent his mother some financial aid from America...?
-Hans' sister married late 1905 and had her firstborn the year after, so 1907 might have been a very good year for Hans to make a visit to Norway to see his new brother-in-law and nephew.
Again, thank you so much for giving me intereresting leads to work on! |
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kent ryen
Starting member
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 09:49:16
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At second glance; the vicar's emigration note for "my" Martin, which link I copied in above, states that he left together with his girlfriend (they were not married) Mathea Augustinusdatter and their illegitimate son, Olaf. Olaf's baptism record from 29 July 1881 names the father as "emigrant":
(No. 68; http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6021&idx_id=6021&uid=ny&idx_side=-93)
As mentioned, I have not found any departure records, neither for Martin nor his wife or son. I guess the next step could be to check for any arrivals records around 1882-ish? |
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kent ryen
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2011 : 11:00:18
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Hi,
Martin and Mathea were married in Dane County, this from Wisconsin Historical Society genealogy index:
Possible spouse matches for Maritin O Bjornstad
Augustenusson, Mathea Marriage Oct 26 1882 Dane
Jackie M.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2011 : 11:08:53
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Name: Hans Hansen Berg
Arrival Date: 27 Jun 1907
Birth Year: abt 1871
Birth Location Other: hedmathen Age: 36
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Southampton
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oceanic
I guess this may say Hedmarken. The index as www.ellisisland.org says Hemaken but the hand written entry clearly shows an R --so Hemarken it is.
Here is the Norwegian part of the equation, leaving from Oslo:
193901 Oslo 1907 12.06.1907 15.06.1907 Hans Hans. Berg m ug farmerarb. 12.12.71 Amerika Wisconsin Elster Montebello
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Edited by - jkmarler on 05/10/2011 16:32:00 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2011 : 12:01:33
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Hi,
Since it appears that these folks are in the family, here is an obit published on Henry N. Bjornstad in Decorah Posten 2 Sept 1948 and found in Rowberg File:
"Dødsfald.--Henry N. Bjørnstad, 49 Aar, er engort ved Døden i sit hjem i Utica, nær Edgerton. Han overleves av sin Mor, Mrs. Mathea Bjørnstad; tre Brødre, Olaf i Madison; Carl, Deerfield, og William i Edgerton; fire Søstre, Mrs. Clara Strand, Utica; Mrs. Thorvam Smithback, Deerfield; Mrs. Harold Dawe og Mrs. Sanford Rue, Madison. Han blev begravet paa Vestre Koshkonong Kirkegaard."
and this one filed under Olaf Bjornstad, but published on Mrs. Mathea Bjornstad in the Decorah Posten 23 Dec 1954:
"Mrs. Mathea Bjornstad, Rt. 2, Deerfield, døde nylig i et Hospital i Stoughton, 94 Aar gammel. Hun var født i Norge. Hun overleves av en Søn Olaf Bjornstad, Rt. 4, Madison; to Døtre, Mrs. Hilda Dawe, 2650 E. Johnson, Madison, Wis., og Mrs. Nora Rue 2651 E Johnson St, Madison; to andrew Døtre Mrs. Anna Smithback, Rt. 2, Deerfield, og Mrs. Clara Strand, Rt. 3, Cambridge; to andre Sønner, William i Edgerton, og Carl i Stoughton."
Jackie M. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 17:00:55
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This might be the arrival of Marthea. She is listed as travelling with an infant. No other information is given. An M Olson is also listed just a little below the two but that could be Mina Olson as the age fits her, there is also a F Abrahamson probably the Fritjof Abrahamson from the departure list.
Name: M Augustenson
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1882
Age: 21 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: British Queen
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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kent ryen
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 06/10/2011 : 11:37:04
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| Many thanks for all of this; I have a feeling we are close to cracking the code! As you may be aware, "Hed(e)marken" is a slightly wider geographical term referring to the municipalities east of Lake Mjøsa in Hedmark county; Stange, Hamar, Løten and Ringsaker - the latter including the no longer independent municipalities of Nes and Furnes. So geographically speaking, we are still correct wrt. Hans H Berg. It's strange, though, that there does not seem to be a departure/arrival record for Martin, but I suppose he may have travelled alone and on beforehand. Just one question about the Rowberg file and the obituaries you referred to; are these records available online somewhere? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/10/2011 : 12:22:19
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Hi,
Rowberg is not available online. I have access to a microfiched copy. The originals are in the Norwegian American Historical Association's holdings at St. Olaf College in Northfield, Minn.
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kent ryen
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 07/10/2011 : 15:39:09
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ok, thanks, I have now managed to find quite a bit through online obits+clippings in newspaperarchive.com; sufficient to get a good overview of current family in America. Thanks a million - again - for putting me on the right track and helping me out with this!
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