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Lionel Young
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 27/11/2011 : 05:46:07
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Desperately seeking details of 'Hans (or John) HANSON' c.1805 married 'Mari ARNISON' c.1809 - 'farmers of Stavanger, Norway'. Son 'Albert Edward HANSON' b.c.1826-1829 Stavanger, Norway. 'Albert' married 'Sarah Jones' in England in 1852, and they emigrated to Australia in 1864.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 12:00:32
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A short summary: Stavanger is a coastal town in Rogaland County.
Albert Edward Hansen born to Hans Hansen b. ca 1805. Albert Edward Johnsen born to John Hansen (change to Hansen/Hanson in the UK???) Traditional Norwegian naming practice.
Mari Arnison b.ca 1809, Mari Arnesdatter in Norway, father was Arne ???.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 12:53:00
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It´s a huge number of records for Stavanger, lots of parish´s, Link
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 17:43:32
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Hi,
Have you looked into English records for the family? There are the English censuses for 1841 and 1851 and several other years available at www.familysearch.org
In the Norway Baptisms database at the same site above, there are 15 Albert (with any combination of name including Albert) Hansons born in 1820s but none appear to be in Stavanger parishes, only one on west coast from Bergen. The database may not be comprehensive enough to say that it includes every Albert in Norway.
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Edited by - jkmarler on 27/11/2011 18:39:54 |
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dodgeboy12
RIP
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 18:03:57
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Hi On ancestry.com there is a Hanson family that has Hans Hansen and And Mari Arnesdatter With a son Albert Edward. They have Hans and Mari From Sor Fron Oppland. It appears to be the same family.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 18:40:52
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Hi Jim,
Any more complete dates and places?
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dodgeboy12
RIP
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 18:55:34
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Hi Jackie
Hans was born Apr. 28 1905. Just 1809 for Mari It says they both died in england No parents For Hans Maris parents were Hans Baltzersen b 6 Dec 1772 and Anne Kristine Olsen b. 1785
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 19:37:05
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Hm. A couple with that name married in Sør-Fron April. 28. 1829, Hans Hansen was from Kjørstadmoen and Mari Arnesdatter from Flaten, left page #3
Sør-Fron is fare from Stavanger
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Edited by - Kåarto on 27/11/2011 19:38:20 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 20:21:14
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Hi,
Hmmm.
If she is Mari Arnison / Arnisdatter where did she pick a Hans Baltzerson as a father? But the ages in the marriage record are about right to fit the approximate birth years.
There are only 4 Hans Baltzerson in the 1801 census, all aged between 17 and 29. The 29 year old is still single living in Sandsvaer in Buskerud.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 20:31:55
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quote: A couple with that name married in Sør-Fron April. 28. 1829, Hans Hansen was from Kjørstadmoen and Mari Arnesdatter from Flaten
- I read Maris name as Amundsdatter!
Hans Hansen from Kjørstadmoen was baptized April 7 1805, see 3rd from bottom of right page.
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Edited by - eibache on 27/11/2011 21:14:17 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 21:10:52
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I also read it as Amundsdatter Einar.
I just translated exactly from LDS records. I think because of a wrong translation there the Sør-Fron record has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
Where is the Stavanger info coming from Lionel?
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 21:41:01
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If the Albert Edward Hanson born 1826, married to Sarah Susannah Jones Dec 20 1852, died Sept 10 1875 in Victoria Australia, it is most likely that he was a Swede. Sarah Jones was born 1829 and died 1871 Stanley Tasmania Australia.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 23:16:01
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Here is the marriage record of Albert and Sarah from Ancestry.com.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Albert Hanson Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Spouse Name: Sarah Susannah Jones Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Dec 1852 Parish: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: John Hanson Spouse Father Name: James Jones Register Type: Parish Register His occupation is listed as mariner and his father is listed as farmer.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 23:27:41
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Here is a potential Albert Hanson immigration record. Oddly enough he is travelling alone. No wife, no children. But he does list his country of origin as Norway.
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 Name: Albert Hanson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Age: 27 Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 18 Mar 1854 Vessel Name: Rodney Origin Location: Norway
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 23:44:10
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Probably Sarah Jones living with her mother and father shortly before her marriage to Albert Hanson. Have not yet found Albert in the 1851 Census.
1851 England Census 1851 England Census Name: James Jones Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Jones Gender: M (Male) Where born: St Georges et, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Stepney County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Household Members: Name Age James Jones 56 Sarah Jones 46 James Jones 23 Sarah Jones 21 Caroline Jones 18 Hannah Jones 12 Edward Jones 15
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/11/2011 : 00:03:01
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This is a stretch but I could not find an Albert Hanson in the 1851 Census but I did find a John Hanson (spelled Hanston by the transcriber but I think incorrectly) living in the same borough as Sarah Jones. Place of birth is listed as Norway.
Name: John Hanston Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Lodger Gender: M (Male) Where born: Norway Civil parish: St George in The East County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: St George In The East
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