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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 28/11/2011 :  14:32:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hallo.
Ole Knudsen Ellingsgaard was born on Eide in Eysturoy 1781, bap. April 13.
Parents; Knud Olesen Ellingsgaard and Elsebeth Olesdatter, see here

It was his father Knud Olsen Ellingsgaard that was born in Norway ca 1744.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 28/11/2011 14:40:13
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Eidijohansen
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Faroe Islands
14 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  14:56:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can tell you a litle bit more. Aril Snorre Edvardsen told us the whole story about our Jewish Ancestors in connections to him. I was not listened the whole time but my Mother told me the rest of the story when we came home from the Meeting in Skala Sportshall in The Faroe Islands. She say,s that she was nearlier this Aril then the people he montined in the Sportshall concerning ours Ancestors in Norway. For example our Legende The Viking Chief Trond i Gøta ( Gøthe ) and some people from Saltnes and Nes plus Toftir and Runavik in Faroes also as my Mother told me from Ole Knudsen from Vestnes in Norway.I have try direct contact with his daugther Mona Edvardsen Selseng but she told me she did not used Geni accorate now so there was nothing to do also in that case, sorry.!!!

Magnus T.J.Johansen.

Edited by - Eidijohansen on 28/11/2011 15:04:28
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 28/11/2011 :  15:04:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Knud Olesen Ellingsgaard married Elsebeth Olesdatter Jan. 1. 1781, Link

He came to Faroe Islands from Ellingsgaard, Norway, or had another connection to Ellingsgaard..

In 1786 when a daughter Inger Anne was born on Eide he called himself Knud Olesen Nordmand, see here

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 28/11/2011 15:06:31
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Eidijohansen
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Faroe Islands
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Posted - 28/11/2011 :  15:16:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hear me a litle bit. Here wants dokumetation which Farm it was they called Ellingsgaard the people came from Vestnes or another Ellingsgaard I think.
Some people called it a GEDCOM Failure only.

Magnus T.J.Johansen.
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  16:15:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Well, there are several places called "Ellingsgaard" in Norway.

In the Bolsøy boka which Kåre gave a link to previously, the Ellingsgaard there was first known as Yttre Sierset (and with numerous spellings possible).

There is also an Ellingsgaard in Aal, Hallingdal, Buskerud, Norway of which first mentions are seen in records from 1640s.

In the 1801 census at least 2 places called Ellingsgaard were found in Smaalene, in Ønsø.

Here is a snippet history of parish registers of Vestnes in More og Romsdal found at www.familysearch.org:

"Contains parish registers from the parishes Vestnes, Tresfjord (Sylte) and Fiksdal. They were separated from Veøy clerical district in 1846."

It might be most sensible that someone turning up in Faroes from Norway would come from west coast of Norway rather than the interior, but interior folk can also be mobile.

Jackie M.
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Eidijohansen
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Faroe Islands
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Posted - 28/11/2011 :  16:39:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, again. I will take a look at the Book called Bolsø Book. But It will take very long time the book is abt. 812 side or sow. But very interested . Chery, Magnus from Ejde in The Faroe Islands. !!!

Magnus T.J.Johansen.
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 28/11/2011 :  19:46:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Take your time, there are many pages.

I looked into Trond i Gøta (Trondur i Gøtu) ca 950-1045, he was a mighty viking-chief on Faroe Islands.
He as most Norwegian were against christanity.

Was Faroe Islands christened by the sword as Norway?

Reg. your name Magnus;
The first Magnus ever was born in Norway 1024.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 28/11/2011 19:46:59
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Eidijohansen
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Faroe Islands
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Posted - 28/11/2011 :  20:33:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, by his Rival Sigmund Brestirson and his Brother Tórur by Sword . As you know Sigmund was The Faroese first Missionary at that time of course. But they Trónd Killed him in Fight between the Isles.

Magnus T.J.Johansen.

Edited by - Eidijohansen on 28/11/2011 20:40:08
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Eidijohansen
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Faroe Islands
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Posted - 28/11/2011 :  20:56:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok 1024 the First name called Magnus in Norway. I am Ancestor of Oyrkaney Magnus The Jarl I think they Killed in his Garden . Some people (British called me direct for " Your are an AGNES " for example also from Gibbon (On Scott acent) Gibson and so on The First Baptist Prest Andrew Gibson Sloan also related to him , That is I am proud of, of course. I did not like The Protestantic Church longer I am Baptist Fan instead for example the American Prest or Pastor Billy Graham I like him very good. God Blesss him and all his Family, of course. Maybe I end as an Baptish Member here or in another country.
At last I hope not I am related to the Scottish " Cromwell " he was terrible against his enemy and used very said example in his fight in Scotland. Thomas Scott maybe died on open Sea of tourst with his Bible of his Mother in his hand and said this last word " Only Jesus I can see him now coming after me halelljah ,Amen " and then he died in the Ship-boat on Sea.

Magnus T.J.Johansen.

Edited by - Eidijohansen on 28/11/2011 21:57:39
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 28/11/2011 :  23:00:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Orkeney Earl Magnus, St. Magnus (Erlendsson) d. April 16. 1115 is buried in St. Magnus Cathedral on Kirkwall, Orkeney.

The origin of the name Magnus.
King Olav Haraldsson, St. Olav, was a great admirer of the French emporer, Carl den Store (Charles the Great), Charlemagne in French, Karlamagnus in Norse.

Olav´s first born son was sick and skinny when he was born 1024, Olav´s "skald" poet Sigvat Thordsson thought he would die and, without arousing the king, put water on the boys head and named him Magnus.
Next day when the king awoke, at first he was angry bacause of the name, but Sigvat explained that Magnus was last ending in the name of the french emporer Karlamagnus.
King Olav was very please when he heard that.
King Magnus "the good" Olavsson died Oct. 24. 1047.

Back to the topic.
Knud Olsen Ellingsgaard, how to find him in Norway.
Born between 1739 and 1744 acc. the 1801 census and the death record

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 28/11/2011 23:15:14
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2011 :  09:55:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Magnus.

I have some add. information for you.
Faroese scientist Jens Chr. Svabo published a book "Indberetninger fra en reise i Færøe 1781 og 1781" A travel in Faroe Islands 1781 and 1782, where he mentions Knud Olsen Ellingsgaard from Tresfjord in Romsdal who was send to Faroe Islands to teach the farmers to plow the land.
The book was republished in Copenhagen 1976, Link

Jens Chr. Svabo got his information from the archives in Bergen, not online, named "Rentekammeret" known as "Stiftamtstueregnskap", an account between the State Administration and the officials.
An example of "Stiftamtstueregnskap" see here

You tells Knud Olsen was known as the soldier from Norway.
To be send to Faroe Islands by the officials he was probably educated. An army officer?

Romsdalske company was in1764 a "Landvern" Local infantry militia in Søndre (Southern) Trondhjemske Regiment.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 30/11/2011 09:20:15
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 29/11/2011 :  11:16:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Knud Olsen lived on Eide all his life exept in 1782 when Malene was born on Kollefiord, see here
Or perhaps Eide was in Kollefjord?

If Knud Olsen Ellingsgaard kept up the traditinal naming practice, perhaps Malene as firstborn daughter was named after his mother?
His father was Ole, perhaps his mother was Malene, unknown lastname.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 29/11/2011 11:21:11
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2011 :  11:44:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Knud Olsen Ellingsgaard was from Skorgedalen, a valley in Tresfjord in todays Vestnes municipality

Knud Olsen Ellingsgaard was headhunted by County Governor in Romsdal Even Hammer to travel to Faroe Islands to teach the farmers there to plow the land on stipulated conditions.

Info in Norwegian from "Lensmann" Police officer Marken after a seminar in Torshavn, Faroe Islands 2010.
Almost down page, headline
NPL på Færøyene see here

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 29/11/2011 12:00:56
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2011 :  12:32:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Took a look at the chronological books of Veøy, they are fairly easily read. But interestingly found that Bølsøe, Vesnæs, Tresfjord, Molde, Grytten were all churches mentioned in the text as venues for pastoral acts. Looking for any Knud, son of Ole baptised during 1739, did not see any.

Of extreme interest in 1739 was a funeral / burial conducted on a Marthe Jacobsd Ellingsgd, aged 102 years at Bølsøe. So it appears to be the "right" place. Lots of acts mentioned concerning soldiers.

Jackie M.
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2011 :  14:50:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Knud Olsen Ellingsgaard´s father was Ole ?
Found an interesting Ole on page 408, Ellingsgaard, in Bolsøyboka.

Ole Andersen Siersett owned a part in Ellingsgaard 1762-63 and on Oct. 30. 1764 Ole Andersen Ellingsgaard sold a part in Ellingsgaard to soldier Lars Larsen.

Veøy, bap. in Vestnes church Jan 24. 1745.
Ole Andersen Neeraasen´s son Knud.
See right page almost down, 2. & 3. line for Domin: 3te.....Døbt Ole Andersen Neeraasen barn kaldet (named) Knud, Faddere- Godparents.... Link

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 29/11/2011 15:30:32
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