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vivi
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 Posted - 13/12/2011 : 16:05:55
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Hi
The idea that Halvor/Albert might be illegitimate has occured to me too, because I found a pige (unmarried girl) Olea Knudsdatter moving to Kvam from Nordre Aurdals prestegjeld (parish) March 23, 1869. She is 41 years old and in the correct age to have a son born around 1857.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061229670094.jpg
Spelling of names vary in Norway so Olea, Olina, Oline etc are the same name.
With a bit of imagination her residence might look a bit like Torpe?
But I don't know if this is the mother of Halvor/Albert. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/12/2011 : 18:47:40
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It reads Olea Knudsdatter Oppenseie, 44 aar, For At Søge Arbeide (to seek work), From Nordre Aurdals
Residence: Stenso
She is born 26 MAR 1826. #22, right page here
Source: Oppland county, Nord-Aurdal, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1816-1828), Birth and baptism records 1826-1827, page 96c.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 13/12/2011 19:31:59 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/12/2011 : 19:06:19
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I'm not sure how this person fits into this topic, but here is one Halvor Olsen from Ulnes in Nord-Aurdal:
Halvor Olsen Loeiet is born in Ulnes, Nord-Aurdal on 20 MAY 1842
Source: Oppland county, Ulnes in Nord-Aurdal, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1842-1863), Birth and baptism records 1842, page 2.
He moved to Gran, Oppland in 1868 (#18, here)
He married Gro Svendsdatter in November same year (#45, here)
He might be a bit too young to have fathered a child in 1857...
Jan Peter |
Edited by - jwiborg on 13/12/2011 19:27:22 |
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eibache
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Posted - 14/12/2011 : 07:26:38
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Residence: Stenso
- I read Østensø. |
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barryerickson
Starting member
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Posted - 14/12/2011 : 08:31:00
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Hope this does not distract you from the excellent info above but there were Halvorsens on both SS Hovding sailings 1872 and 1873 Oslo to Ahuriri Napier. One Johan Halvorsen drew block 7 Dannevirke. Guillette Halvorsen, single 29yrs and Marie Halvorsen 30yrs from interior late Frederickstad, domestic servants. I remember Albertson's in Dannevirke also. I can find decendant (s) quick if needed.
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vivi
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Posted - 14/12/2011 : 11:48:35
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Hi
I found the death of Oline in Kvam.
Her name is Oline Knudsdatter Bø and she died June 30, 1877. Residence Raaen.
She was unmarried and 50 years old. This fits very well birthyear 1826.
Also her "surname" Bø fits with Halvor's birthplace Bøeiet.
I would think it is very likely this is Halvor/Alberts mother.
But we need the bapitzm of Halvor to get more information about his parents.
No 44: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061229660556.jpg
Barry: Halvorsen is a common norwegian name.
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Edited by - vivi on 14/12/2011 12:36:57 |
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eibache
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Posted - 14/12/2011 : 16:05:10
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Vivi, would be nice if you link to "Permanent sidelenke" - makes zooming easier and gives reference to which book the link refer to.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 14/12/2011 : 16:43:23
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Originally posted by eibache
Vivi, would be nice if you link to "Permanent sidelenke" - makes zooming easier and gives reference to which book the link refer to.
Yes, I agree.
I also noticed Oline Knudsdatter Bø yesterday. but for some reason I didn't connect her with Bøeie. I agree that she is a strong possibility.
Source: Hordaland county, Kvam, Parish register (official) nr. A 9 (1864-1879), Death and burial records 1877, page 170.
It can also be seen here.
Source: Gravlagde i Kvam 1818-1879 (Buried in Kvam, Hordaland 1818-1879)
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ms_malevolent
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Posted - 14/12/2011 : 19:34:44
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I'd found queries from this Dave Halverson before. Not sure how I'm related to him - yet! Haha.
The postcards I have copies of are of the Fagerlund Hotel and Hotel Hegg in Valders. I know people keep saying Valdres, and Valdres comes up on Google Maps when I type it in (Valdres, norway), and Valders does not, but Valders, Norge sure comes up with a place near-ish Oslo. However then Fagernes is near Valdres. but why would the postcards in Norwegian say Valders if it was Valdres?
Perhaps it is 'Torpe'. I do not have it handwritten anywhere except by my aunt (great great aunt, great granddaughter of Albert). My aunt and mother convinced me the strike-through S was a Norwegian letter but clearly not. I had become suspicious of that when I started trying to learn Norwegian. But in every example, including his will, it is typed out 'Torpse' with a handwritten strike through it. Perhaps an accident repeated over the years then.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 14/12/2011 : 19:52:27
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Are you sure it says "Hotel Hegg in Valders"? Or could it be Hegg Hotel in Lærdal, Sogn & Fjordane?
In addition to being a hotel, it was also a coach office, a post office and a telegraph station. It is located on the main road between the Valdres Region and Bergen. It would thus be a natural stop en route Valdres-Bergen.
Fagerlund Hotell is located in Fagernes in Nord-Aurdal (Valdres region), at the red pin on the map below. It had the same purposes (hotel, coach office, post office, telegraph station) It was built in 1876...
Valders and Valdres would be the same. The Region is called and written Valdres, but in local dialect they would normally pronounce it Valders... 
The region covers the 6 municipalities Nord-Aurdal, Sør-Aurdal, Øystre Slidre, Vestre Slidre, Vang and Etnedal in Oppland county.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/12/2011 : 22:08:22
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Originally posted by ms_malevolent
The postcards I have copies of are of the Fagerlund Hotel and Hotel Hegg in Valders. I know people keep saying Valdres, and Valdres comes up on Google Maps when I type it in (Valdres, norway), and Valders does not, but Valders, Norge
Perhaps it is 'Torpe'.
Part of the reason this find of a set of parents named Halvor and Oline and Oline in Kvam is that there is a farm named Torpe in Kvam...
About the postcards--were they used postally, how did they come to be in the family--we they sent or were they collected by someone on a trip to Norway?
I haven't found any other Halvors on Skaga in the bygdebok. Gol is certainly within relatively easier travel distance to Nord Aurdal and the bygdeboker have many stories of families moving from Gol to Aurdal and vice versus.
In looking through the utflyttedes from Gol, the "big" destination was Nord Amerika but I did see one Halvor Olson who left from Gol in 1845 for what I read as Aasness. However, the Gol bygdebok gives the interpretation of the destination as Ramnes in Vestfold an opposite direction from Nord Aurdal. So I hope forumites will look at #2 on page 703 Udflyttedes and weigh in on the location:
Source information: Buskerud county, Gol, Parish register (official) nr. I 2 (1837-1863), Imigration records 1847-1849, Emigration records 1845, page 702-703.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7751&idx_id=7751&uid=ny&idx_side=-353
Halvor's birthdate is given in the migration record. At his baptism his mother's address was Trælverkeie which was the old fashioned name of a farm now called Treverket. This Halvor's father is named Ole Olson Auvestad and came from Kristiania. This Halvor's mother, Margit Hermundsdatter was born in 1801 died in 1885. Halvor is thought to have died before 1885. Margit had 4 illegitimate children 2 born in Gol and of the other 2 1 was born in Gran and the other in S. Land. I'm not sure where S. Land is but Gran is in Oppland. Her moves indicate the extent of moves that a single mother working woman might undertake.
Again there is very little information about Halvor Olson in the book so a possible connection to Skaga is entirely hypothetical. Skaga today is an open air museum and when I was there in 2000 a troupe reenacted part of the story about Fange Liv and Fanitullen which had been on Norwegian TV.
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ms_malevolent
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Posted - 15/12/2011 : 06:32:15
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Thanks, yes I do need the more obvious things pointed out 
The postcards:
The pencil writing on the side is irrelevant.
So yes "Valders, Hotel Fagerlund"
"Norge
Hegg Hotel - Valders"
and yes the last one is Oslo Castle.
I think he would have brought them with him, rather than them actually being sent in the post from Norway. I have never seen the actual postcards, I'm not sure if they even still exist, or whether anything was ever written on the back.
And yes the Hegg Hotel pictures look very similar, though mine definitely says Valders on it.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 15/12/2011 : 07:19:05
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The Hegg Hotel from your postcard is the same as I have posted above. It is The Hegg Hotel in Lærdal, Sogn & Fjordane. (Hægg farm in Borgund).
The Hotel building is the far right one on both pictures.
The postcard of Fagerlund Hotel in Fagernes, Nord Aurdal is the correct one. This is in the heart of the Valdres Region.
The distance between Hegg Hotel and Fagerlund Hotel is 120 km, and would take you 1hr 40 min to drive today.
In 1879, this distance would be a tough daytrip with horse and wagon.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/12/2011 : 14:47:03
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Originally posted by ms_malevolent
I know people keep saying Valdres, and Valdres comes up on Google Maps when I type it in (Valdres, norway), and Valders does not, but Valders, Norge sure comes up with a place near-ish Oslo. However then Fagernes is near Valdres. but why would the postcards in Norwegian say Valders if it was Valdres?
Norway has 2 official Norwegian languages, so even on currency and postage the name of the country appears 2 ways--Norge and Noreg. Then you add to that many districts have their own dialects. On the page link for Halvor Olson's leaving Gol you will see one person's destination as "Wallers" and that, too, is an old spelling for Valdres....
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vivi
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Posted - 29/12/2011 : 02:25:19
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Hi
I have got "look-up help".
When Oline Knudsdatter died she was "inderstpige" = unmarried woman living and working on someone else's farm.
She left behind ”1 Søn i udenrigs Fart som Matros” = 1 son sailing as a sailor on international seas.
The local Magistrate tried several times in 1877 and 1878 to get in touch with her son to settle the estate. He got a letter from Olines son with adress: Boardinghouse, London.
I feel rather sure we have found the correct mother for Halvor/Albert., but before we find the baptizm it is very difficult to find the correct father.
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