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tinaamundson
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 Posted - 06/01/2012 : 02:01:02
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Wow! I am so excited so have such incredible response, THANK YOU to ALL of you! I feel like I have found out more today than I have ever!!! My family greatly appreciates all of your help, I now have some more information to go on  |
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Lislcat
Advanced member
USA
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Posted - 06/01/2012 : 02:03:27
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 So, it was a family business. Great find on the theses! |
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tinaamundson
Starting member
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Posted - 06/01/2012 : 02:07:16
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| The Ole Amundson is the census was my great-great Grandfather. I am not sure who Amund Amundson is, but I will for sure look into that. Thank You, you are have been wonderful help! |
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tinaamundson
Starting member
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Posted - 06/01/2012 : 02:14:22
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| Amund Amundson must be my great-great grandfather's brother, it looks like he was 2 years younger than Ole in the 1895 census. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2012 : 02:24:15
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Hi Tina,
Yes, test it out. Try to find a family with an Ole b Norway abt 1866 and an Amund b. Minnesota about 1868, in Minnesota in the other censuses at familysearch.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/01/2012 : 03:19:46
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Originally posted by tinaamundson
I have Olsen's on both my grandfather and grandmothers side, but I am pretty sure it is my grandfathers side.
My grandfathers (George H Amundson 1920-2002) dad was Arthur G. Amundson (1894- 1947), born in Minnesota. His parents were Ole Amundson (1866- ?) and Mina Schoyen (1892-1975), Mina was born in Minnesota but I believe Ole was born in Norway. Ole was married to Marie Rosendahl (1871 -?).
Mina's parents were Henry O. Schoyen (?-1939) and Mathea Oliane Olsen, both born in Norway. Henry's parents were, Ole Henrikson and Marie Henrikson...I can't find her birth last name. Mathea's parents were Christian Olsen and Mathea Oliandenger (or Oliana Mathea Christiansen, I have found it both ways). Oliana was baptised in Fredrikstad, Osfstaf Norway on July 2, 1854 DOB June 4, 1854.
I am really new to this stuff and unfortunetly don't have a lot of family around anymore to ask these questions to but I'd love to find out about my family so any guidance would be appreciated
This must be your family. A Captain Carl Bernhard ("C.B.") Olsen (22) lives there.
He is the uncle to your Mina. (A brother to Oliane Mathea Christensen born 04 Jun 1854)
Census-1865 for Fredrikstad, Østfold:
Oleane Mathea Ols. housewife widow 46 Fredrikstad Metodist-church
Ole Anthon Ols. Son Salesman single 24 Fredrikstad
Christian Emil Ols. Son Seaman single 17 Fredrikstad
Carl Bernhard Ols. Son Captain single 22 Fredrikstad
Hans Syverin Ols. Son single 15 Fredrikstad
Oliana Mathea Ols. Daughter single 13 Fredrikstad
In the census they've taken the last name Olsen from their late father, while in the chr. records they have their patronymic name Christiansen, from their father's first name Christian.
Ole Anton Christensen
Birth: 02 Apr 1842
Christening: 07 Aug 1842, Fredrikstad, Østfold, Norway
Parents: Christian Olsen & Oliane Matthea Enger
Carl Bernhard Christensen (="C.B. Olsen")
Birth: 08 Feb 1844
Christening: 23 Jun 1844, Fredrikstad, Østfold, Norway
Parents: Christian Olsen & Oliane Matthea Olsdatter
Christian Emil Christensen
Birth: 08 Jun 1849
Christening: 07 Oct 1849, Fredrikstad, Østfold, Norway
Parents: Christian Olsen & Oliane Matthea Enger
Hans Severin Christensen
Birth: 01 Dec 1851
Christening: 28 Dec 1851, Fredrikstad, Østfold, Norway
Parents: Christian Olsen & Oliane Matthea Enger
Oliane Mathea Christensen
Birth: 04 Jun 1854
Christening: 02 Jul 1854 Østre Fredrikstad, Østfold, Norway
Parents: Christian Olsen & Mathea Enger Olsen
Anne Marie Christiane Christensen
Birth: 23 Jul 1857
Christening: 16 Aug 1857, Østre Fredrikstad, Østfold, Norway
Parents: Christian Olsen & Mathea Enger Olsen
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tinaamundson
Starting member
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Posted - 06/01/2012 : 03:58:34
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Jan Peter, that's it, this IS my family for sure. I now know who C.B. is! Thank You!
ALL of you are amazing for helping out a total stranger, this genealogy thing may become addictive |
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peder
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tinaamundson
Starting member
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Posted - 06/01/2012 : 21:16:24
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| I can trace Carl Bernard Olsen to my family and I see that he was a ship captain, but I can't trace him to the "Collector", but I can trace Christoffer Olsen to the ship from a previous post but I can't trace him to my family. Where can I go to find out the ships that Carl Bernard Olsen was the captain of? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/01/2012 : 22:04:04
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I don't think Carl Bernhard Olsen and Christoffer Olsen are related, so we have to assume that it was Carl Bernhard who was the captain of the "Collector" in 1879.
But to prove it, it's another story.... 
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2012 : 04:18:45
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Hi Tina,
Do you have access to the painting? Are there any other tags and labels (framer's marks, sale bills, etc) on it that might tell about the history of the painting? Is there an artist's signature on the painting?
According to the 1900 census, Oliana Mathea came to US in 1879, and according to the 1930 census she came to US in 1880. When her husband died in 1897 he had a will. When Oliana died in 1931, did she have a will in which the painting was mentioned as a legacy?
Perhaps the theses writer might know about employment records of the O.P.Olsen company which might mention the Captain of the Collector.
Den Norske Veritas (apparently, one of the Olsen company brother's later connections--by the by love that name The Norwegian Truth) is still in operation today, rating vessels and other functions of marine trade.
Is there anyone on forum who would know which legal entity would handle an investigation of the case of the Collector's destruction and where those records might be?
In another topic, a querist mentioned that he'd gotten some copies of pages of a Norwegian sailor's records, is there some set of records of a captain's records as well?
Jackie M. |
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jkmarler
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tinaamundson
Starting member
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 03:16:51
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| Yes, I can get access to the painting but not this weekend. I should be able to take a look at it this next week and may be able to get a photgraph uploaded to this thread if I can figure out how to do it |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2012 : 03:32:34
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Hey Tina,
Excellent! I am not technically proficient to be able to help with that upload but others on forum are.
I see that Oliana was living with her daughter Christine Kuethe in the 1930 census. Are you in contact with her descendants? Perhaps a memory got passed on to Christine's 3 boys, since they lived with Oliane, and then maybe to the boys' descendants, etc....
If you are able to photograph, take a shot or two of the back, any labels or writings or attachments and maybe a close up of the signature.
The New York Times article about the sinking of the Collector mentions that an inquiry is possible--would be interesting to find if such records exist and where.
Jackie M.
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