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peder
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tinaamundson
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 Posted - 09/01/2012 : 00:59:57
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My father sent me some pictures of the Collector, but I can't figure out how to upload them to this thread  |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/01/2012 : 20:42:16
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tinaamundson
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Posted - 09/01/2012 : 20:44:32
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| Thank You Jan Peter! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/01/2012 : 23:30:09
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O Cool! And thanks for this effort!
Do any on forum know if the 4 little flags are signifying something or if there was artistic license applied to them. Likewise is there any message in the quartering of the Norwegian flag?
Looks like it's under glass, so probably not an oil painting, more likely water color or gouache, probably on paper. The treatment of the people is fairly sticklike, and water is basic, so obviously the detail on the ship is what's important. No signature seen, but might still be there under closer inspection.
A neat detail (or is it a trick in my eye?) a seal in the big wave at the front of the boat. And would it be the captain with the spyglass aft of ship? Nine or ten crew visible. Calligraphic title.
The back will probably be sealed with paper but might still have framer's label. Frame is plain wood.
So cool.
But who would have had this painted? The captain or the company? And how did it come to be in America?
Always more mystery...
Jackie M.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/01/2012 : 23:54:26
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The upper left corner of this old Norwegian flag is called "sildesalaten" ("the salmagundi")  , and was introduced by King Oscar I in 1844.
The salmagundi was in the Norwegian merchant flag 1844–1899 and in the naval and royal flag until 1905. All swedish flags had this sign in the period 1844–1905.
The 4 flags at the top are International Signal Flags.
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Some signals are sent with a single flag. Urgent and important signals are two flag signals. General signals are three flag signals.
Geographical, alphabetic spelling tables, and vessel numbers are sent with four flags.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/01/2012 : 00:42:03
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Hi,
Does HPVM stand for anything? Steady as she goes? or what?
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jwiborg
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Posted - 10/01/2012 : 00:59:47
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Sorry, its HSVM.
Not sure what it stand for, but some kind of identification of the ship.
This was before wireless radio became common.
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jkmarler
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tinaamundson
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Posted - 11/01/2012 : 02:56:38
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| Can anyone help me understand what the headings on the parish birth records from around 1844 translate to in English? |
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tinaamundson
Starting member
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Posted - 11/01/2012 : 03:07:05
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| I am now trying to find out the date of birth and death of Oleane Mather Olsen and Christian Olsen. I can see that Oleana's birth last name was Enger but I have had no luck finding any further information. Oliane and Christian are parents to Carl Bernard Olsen (C.B.). |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/01/2012 : 06:34:09
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Hi Tina,
Hopkins included a web address for a page which has English translations of the parish register page headings, earlier in this topic.
Here is Oliane Mathea's baptism, #13, right hand page:
Source information: Østfold county, Fredrikstad, Parish register (official) nr. 4 (1816-1834), Birth and baptism records 1819-1820, page 96-97.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7451&idx_id=7451&uid=ny&idx_side=-49
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eibache
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Posted - 11/01/2012 : 08:44:28
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Tailor Christian Olsen and Oleane Mathea Enger, marriage record #10 Nov 5 1841,
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Fredrikstad, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1835-1856), Ekteviede 1841, side 246.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=364&idx_id=364&uid=ny&idx_side=-224
Christian Olsen was born approx 1818 in Ullensager and his father was Ole Christophersen.
Christian was born out of wedlock Dec 12 1817, see #79
Kildeinformasjon: Akershus fylke, Ullensaker, Klokkerbok nr. I 1 (1815-1835), Fødte og døpte 1818, side 60-61.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7646&idx_id=7646&uid=ny&idx_side=-33.
His parents were Ole Christoffersen, Oppen and Anne Olsdatter from Løten.
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eibache
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C.B. Olsen
