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AntonH
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 Posted - 13/01/2012 : 01:36:06
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A Edward M Minge lived in Otter Tail County, Minnesota for all US Census from 1900 Through 1930. The problem with this Edward Minge is that he lists his immigration date as 1881 and he does so on the 1900, 1910 and 1920 Census sheets.
Name: Edward Minge
Age: 29
Birth Date: Nov 1870
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Dane Prairie, Otter Tail, Minnesota
[Dane Prairie, Otter Tail, Minnesota]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Amanda Minge
Marriage Year: 1897
Years Married: 3
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/01/2012 : 02:03:10
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Coming back to Ancestry.com and the Family Tree's posted there. Not all of them are accurate but sometimes informaion found there can lead to other discoveries. Searching under Minge I came up with Mathias Minge born in Norway died in Dunseth, Rolette, North Dakota. This is a different tree than the one I mentioned earlier but this one has the wife of Mathias a Bertha Bergan 1831-1917 and the children are Martin J Anderson and Emma Anderson. Same Martin as listed above. This tree has a second wife, no name given, but two children listed a Julia Fyrand Minge 1869-1950 and Edward Minge 1870-1944. This is the same Edward Minge listed above from Otter Tail County, Minnesota. The tree lists Julia as having married Henry Smedburg.
Somewhere in all of this data lies the truth, it is not always easy to coax it out. |
Edited by - AntonH on 13/01/2012 02:04:32 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/01/2012 : 02:22:02
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Hi,
Here is the North Dakota public death index for a Julia Smedberg:
SMEDBERG, JULIA
died 09/28/1950 Divide
FEMALE 80 Years
born 2/21/1869
resident of North Dakota Divide County
There are wonderful resources for Divide County, I'll take a look at the published obituary transcriptions for this one and see what turns up.
Jackie M. |
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/01/2012 : 02:36:15
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Hi,
Bruce's name is well known in Norwegian circles...
The family leaving in 1881 has both an Anne Marie and an Edward of approximately the correct ages to match Mathis Anderson Minge's children. But it would be a strange set of circumstances that would lead back to Norway for youngsters like them to make the journey again in 1881...
Curiouser and curiouser,
Jackie M. |
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jkmarler
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kariellen
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Posted - 13/01/2012 : 11:27:47
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Thank you so much, this is a lot of information to sort out. I am overwhelmed by the help you are willing to give a stranger.
I will try to contact Bruce Gjovig about the Julia Minge born in 1869.
Kari
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/01/2012 : 12:38:35
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Here is Mathis Anderson Minge & Berte Hansd marriage, #1_:
Source information: Østfold county, Tune, Parish register (official) nr. 14 (1864-1868), Marriage records 1865, page 187.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=459&idx_id=459&uid=ny&idx_side=-197
Steele County is to the east south and west of Goodhue County, this marriage from www.mncounty.com:
STEELE C-54-AMIB 11/23/1877
ANDERSON, MATHIAS
INGBRITSON, BETSEY |
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/01/2012 : 16:43:18
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Kari , do you have a birth date for Edvard. I found the birth record for Emile Caroline but could not find Edvard in the 1867 record. Also a birth date for Julia would be helpful.
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kariellen
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/01/2012 : 23:56:39
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Well here is the family arrival in America. The rest of the family is listed as Pferte (must be Berte) age 25, Emilie age 4, Edward 6/12 and Marie age 3.
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Mathias Andersen
Arrival Date: 8 Jul 1870
Birth Year: abt 1837
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Christiansand, Norway and Swinemunde, Germany
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Western Metropolis
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/01/2012 : 00:19:18
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Hi Kariellen,
From Obituaries Divide County Journal, Crosby, N.Dak., 1950-1969 compiled by Ron Gillund, page 9.
Published in 5 Oct 1950 paper, abstraction says this "Julia Smedberg (Julia Minge), d. Crosby hosp 28 Sept. Svc and burial Concordia Lutheran, Crosby. b. 21 Dec 1869 in Norway to M/M Matthias Minge. Family moved to Faribault, Minn in 1872. m. Henry A. Smedberg of Belle Plaine, Minn in 1890. Moved to Cando. Husband d. 1914. She moved to Crosby in 1945. Four sons & 4 daughters survive including Oscar, Agnes (Mrs. Ron Gjovig) & Mae (Mrs. Archie Peterson) all of Crosby. Two children have died."
The obit for Edward Minge b. 1870 d. 1944 published in the Fargo Forum doesnot mention a sister surviving named Julia, mentioning brothers John of Bellingham, Wash, Ole and Carl of Fergus Falls and Mrs. Hannah Peterson.
There is a short paragraph about Mathias Anderson (and a picture of him) in Prairie Past and Mountain Memories: A History of Dunseith, N.Dak 1882-1982 on page133:
"Mathias Anderson and his wife, Bertha, came to North Dakota in 1899, living at Cando, ND for one year. In 1900 they came to Dunseith, homesteading in the Turtle Mountains in Gilbert Township on land now owned by Erling and Helen Nelson.
Two children were Martin and Emma, who married Henry Hanson. Henry and Emma Hanson had one son Edward Hanson of Dunseith."
There is a page and a half on Martin J. Anderson & family on page 229. Here are the basics on him: "Martin J and Marie Anderson were two of the early settlers in Willow Lake Township. Martin J. was born and raised in Goodhue County, MN. In 1884 when Marie was four years old, her family left Norway and settled in Minnesota.
Martin J. and Marie were married on Dec. 1, 1899. They left Becker County, MN and settled in the Turtle Mountains (Section 35, Township 163, Range 73) during the summer of 1900."
Because Henry Smedberg was mentioned in the index I looked at Towner County North Dakota Families Volume 5 by Mable Lyle Jacque Hadler published about 1959, page 991:
"Odegard, Edward M., b Mar. 4, 1867, son of Matthias Anderson of Dunseith. Died Oct 1, 1916, bur. Egeland, Cem. His sis: Mrs. Henry Smedberg. Md May 5, 1895, Bisbee, Rev. Hagboe, Laura Stakke, b. June 18, 1860, Olesund, Norway, coming to Bisbee 1889. She d Jan. 19, 1942, bur. Egeland Cem. Homest east of Egeland. Children:....."
It would be extremely ironic if Julia Minge, Mrs. Henry Smedberg the mention which brought me to the Towner County books, turns out not to be "in the family", after all.
Having an additional name to look up, might help... By the by, if these folks are yours (which seems very likely) you will have relatives over here in the dozens if not the hundreds.
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/01/2012 : 00:21:28
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From the Minnesota State and Territorial Census. Rice County is adjacent to both Goodhue and Steele Counties. Mathias is the only one listed on the Census Sheet no other familiy members listed.
Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905 Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Mathias Anderson
Census Date: 1 May 1875
County: Rice
Locality: Richland
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Mother's Birth Location: Norway
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/01/2012 : 00:40:46
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| And Faribault, Minnesota is in Rice County.... |
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