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ffitting
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 Posted - 27/01/2012 : 22:50:28
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| OK, I'm not Norwegian, but was born in Minnesota and we have a great many Norwegians there, so hopefully that will make this alright. My great-grandparents (from Poland) arrived in Glasgow from Hamburg sometime after their ship the Flamingo sailed from Hamburg on April 13, 1881. The information I have is that they were sailing to America via Glasgow and Hull. I think that they actually took a train to Liverpool and shipped out for New York from there. I'm trying to determine how long it would have taken them to travel from Hamburg to Glasgow. Also, if they would have had to spend a few days between arriving in Glasgow and traveling by train to Liverpool. I've been searching for the ship they took to America for over 15 years and was just lucky enough to find them on the Hamburg Indirect index. If anyone has a clue as to approximately how much time it MIGHT have taken them to travel from Glasgow to Liverpool it would help me narrow down my search. I'd appreciate any information or suggestions. Thanks, and I do like lefse. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/01/2012 : 23:52:14
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Hull to Liverpool??? It took my great-grandfather about a month but he was an adventurous 18 yr old man or perhaps he was just taking the opportunity to explore... Most people just followed the path as explained in many of the articles available on this website.
Typical "Glasgow to Liverpool" for those not being adventurous should have been only a matter of a day or two.
By 1881 you could expect that most cross-Atlantic voyages would have been on a steamer rather than by sail. That would almost always speed the trip. I'd roughly estimate most steamer trips from Europe to America at a week or less... but trouble can always happen.
You think they arrived in New York/New Jersey area? rather than Baltimore, Boston, Philadelphia, etc. other options. So have you looked at the records kept by the US National Archives for those various ports already? They might not be online - but they are available. |
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ffitting
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Posted - 28/01/2012 : 01:51:40
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| Thanks for your answer. The ship's manifest from Hamburg states that they were going to New York. Family folklore was that they arrived in Baltimore on May 11, 1881. I've searched the ships lists for the entire month of May for Baltimore and have just begun New York. There are zillions of ships that arrived in New York in May. I was so happy to at least have found them on the Hamburg records. I was beginning to think that they came into the country using an assumed name! Rymarkiewicz isn't exactly common I've found, but none the less there are very few of them on the Ancestry records for immigration. I'll just have to keep plugging away. At least I have a ballpark date to work with. Hope my eyes hold out long enough to find them. Thanks again. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/01/2012 : 11:51:10
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Hi.
I sailed on these places several times in the mid. -60s.
From Hamburg to Glasgow would be a travel on ca 3-4 days depending on the weather.
From Hamburg heading for the east north-coast of Scotland crossing the rought and powerful Pentland stream between Scotland and Shetland.
Passing the north end of Scotland heading south between the islas of Hebrides and the mainland heading for the nort end of Ireland before the cource is set to the east towards Glasgow which lies deep in Scotland.
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ffitting
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Posted - 06/02/2012 : 17:16:38
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| This is a happy update to my question and a thanks to all who responded. Using the Arrivals supplied at this site for the month of May, 1881 I searched every ships list from Liverpool to New York. Then Glasgow to New York, with no luck. Then I had an idea that I thought was a long shot. I had the ships list for the Flamingo which my ancestors sailed on from Hamburg to Glasgow. It was only one page. I decided to search for the other names on that list on some of the ships that I had unsuccessfully searched already. Well, imagine my surprise when I found almost all of them on the S/S State of Nebraska! The State of Nebraska sailed to New York via Glasgow and Larne, Ireland, another surprise. After rereading the lists yet again I found them! Their surname is almost illegible and the homeplace was incorrectly noted as Austria/Hungary. But the names are right above and below some of the other passengers from the Flamingo. I then went to the Immigrant Transcribers Guild to see if anyone had transcribed this list. It had been done in 2005 but the surnames were completely incorrect. They were identified as SHOFRANSKY instead of RYMARKIEWICZ. I can see how it would be easy to misread some of the entries on the list as the penmanship was not the best. The first letter of the surname is clearly "R" though and the ages and first names agree. By the way, according to the remarks on the Norway-Heritage Arrivals there were 1376 passengers on the ship and it made the crossing in 7 days and 4 hours! I'm so happy I found this site, thank you for helping me with my quest. If there is anyone out there who has Polish ancestors from Lipusz, Ugoszcz or Borzyszkowy parishes and would like me to search the vital records I have for those parishes, ask away. It would be my small way of saying thank you. |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/02/2012 : 18:56:21
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Hi.
I found this info reg. Flamengo from Hamburg to Glasgow.
Another person is looking for the same info, perhaps some more add. info to get one step closer.
See 2. chapter here
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