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kariellen
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  19:59:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He was my granduncle, born no. 72 here: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=377&idx_id=377&uid=ny&idx_side=-19

His confirmation no. 50: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6221&idx_id=6221&uid=ny&idx_side=-390

He lives with his fosterparents in 1875: http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7&filnamn=f70134&gardpostnr=441&personpostnr=2089&merk=2089#ovre

He is supposed to have gone to America, and to have died around 1920. I draw a blank everywhere I search.


Can someone help?

Kari

AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  20:50:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I assume that you have looked for an emigration record with no success?
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  20:57:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is one candidate, however an Edward, brother is listed with the famly. Did Karl have a brother named Edward. Also birth year is off by one year.

1900 United States Federal Census 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Carl M Nelson
Age: 36
Birth Date: Mar 1864
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Big Woods, Marshall, Minnesota
[Marshall]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1886
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Natalie Nelson
Marriage Year: 1896
Years married: 4
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members: Name Age
Carl M Nelson 36
Natalie Nelson 36
Hannah Nelson 2
Edward N Nelson 34



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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  20:59:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the same person in 1905 Minnesota State and Territorial Census. Note his middle initial is given as M in two places.

Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905 Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Carl M Nilsen
Census Date: 8 Jun 1905
County: Marshall
Locality: Big Woods
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Mother's Birth Location: Norway


Edited by - AntonH on 29/01/2012 00:13:52
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kariellen
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Norway
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  23:05:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He had a half brother named Edvard Marensius Johansen, born 1871, married in Norway 1896. There is nothing to indicate Edvard being in America.

I have searched both emigration and immigrationrecords. I have bought a month's access to Ancestry for this. Can never be sure of course, it is easy to miss something.

Kari
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  01:56:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are 256 men leaving from Oslo with the name Karl Nis*****. Without knowing an emmigration year it is difficult to determine which of these might be a candidate.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=31&filnamn=EMIOSLO&medbilete=&sokpostnr=1#a0
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  03:17:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you ruled out this Karl Nilsen born 1864 Glemminge Sm

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&knr=0117&kenr=006&bnr=0017&lnr=00
Edited by - AntonH on 29/01/2012 03:20:56
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  03:53:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the marriage record of the Karl / Carl in Marshall County from www.mncounty.com:

MARSHALL C-126 12/29/1896
NILSON, KARL M.
HANSON, NATALIA

Middle initial is M there, too.
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  04:01:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is another possibility. He seems to be travelling without family. Manifest states that his last residence was Notteroy? Probably Nøtterøy. Going to Chicago IL. Name given maybe brother in law Anders Anderson. Maybe travelling with a Hans Thorsen Thorvald who is also going to Chicago IL to his son Thorvald Thorsen. He is also from Nøtterøy. All from Ancestry.com.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Karl Nicolai Nilsen
Arrival Date: 28 Apr 1904
Birth Year: abt 1862
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian
Port of departure: Liverpool, England
Port of arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oceanic

The address given for Anders Anderson is
1466 Monticello Avenue, Chicago, IL
Edited by - AntonH on 29/01/2012 04:31:46
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  04:14:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the emmigration record for Karl Nikolai Nilsen and his friend.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=66&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=156716&merk=156716#ovre
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  04:32:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a possible from www.findagrave.com:

www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=nelson&GSfn=carl&GSmn=n&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=34113038&df=all&" target="_blank">http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=nelson&GSfn=carl&GSmn=n&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=34113038&df=all&
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  04:45:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Might be the same person. If so looks like he was born in the US

1880 United States Federal Census 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Carl N. Nelson
Age: 17
Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1880: Graham Lake, Nobles, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Anton Nelson
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Mother's name: Anna Nelson
Mother's Birthplace: Nor.


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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  04:53:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably so.

Here is google's map of 1466 Monticello in Chicago:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sugexp=pfwl&cp=27&gs_id=n&xhr=t&q=1466+monticello+avenue+chicago&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enUS431US432&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=540&ion=1&wrapid=tljp1327808728328023&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x880fcd38025d917b:0x15283316423eef07,1466+N+Monticello+Ave,+Chicago,+IL+60651&gl=us&ei=3cAkT_eZIeKpsQKOvaCMAg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB8Q8gEwAA
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kariellen
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Norway
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  21:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Have you ruled out this Karl Nilsen born 1864 Glemminge Sm

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&knr=0117&kenr=006&bnr=0017&lnr=00




This one is ruled out
kariellen
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kariellen
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  21:27:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here is a possible from www.findagrave.com:

www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=nelson&GSfn=carl&GSmn=n&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=34113038&df=all&" target="_blank">http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=nelson&GSfn=carl&GSmn=n&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=34113038&df=all&


This man is actually born in Nøtterøy 1861, so he is also ruled out.
kariellen
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kariellen
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Norway
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  21:29:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Here is the emmigration record for Karl Nikolai Nilsen and his friend.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=66&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=156716&merk=156716#ovre


Please ignore the last post, this is the man who is born in Nøtterøy 1861 who is not my granduncle.
kariellen
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