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Kåarto
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 13:04:24
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So Kåre, are you saying you think the candidate I found was wrong?
With respect may I say given the evidence below, maybe saying Andrew is Arne needs more rational to say why.
The American family has a story that Andrew S. Lexvold had birth name of Anders Severson (as posted by slexvold). Sever/Siver/Syver/Sivert/Sivert/Syvert can be the same name. A book called "History of Goodhue County Minnesota" published 1909 has a biography of him. The book says Anders Andrew was born 09 Nov 1829. The candidate Anders was born 09 Nov 1829. The book says Anders Andrew emigrated 1866. The candidate emigrated 1866. The book says Anders Andrew had a son Sivert born March 1862 in Norway. The candidate has a son Sivert born March 1862 in Norway. The book says Anders Andrew had a first wife Berntine. The candidate first married a Berntine. The book says Berntine died in Norway. The candidate Berntine died in Norway. The book says Anders had daughters Martha, Anna, Sarah (and other children). The candidate had daughters Martha, Anna, and Seri born in Norway. The US census 1880 shows the other children were born in the US. The candidate emigrated from Norway with children Martha, Anna, Seri, and Sivert. The candidate emigrated with people who appear to be siblings. The candidate sister Sigrid and husband are buried in a county near to where Anders Andrew is buried. ADDITION --- the candidate Anders Sivertsen emigrates in company with Hemming Sivertsen and Hemming son Sivert Hemming Sivertsen. The candidate birth record has a father Sivert Hemmingsen. The candidate Anders lives with mother Mali Christensdatter in 1865. The birth record 09 Nov 1829 has candidate Anders with mother Mali Christensdatter. The candidate family who emigrated are traveling with Mali Christensdatter age 60.
More can be found but at the moment no family member is reading this thread.
I think Andrew Severson Lexvold and the candidate Anders Sivertsen are a good fit.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 13:24:06
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quote: Originally posted by JaneC
So Kåre, are you saying you think the candidate I found was wrong?
With respect may I say given the evidence below, maybe saying Andrew is Arne needs more rational to say why.
The American family has a story that Andrew S. Lexvold had birth name of Anders Severson (as posted by slexvold). Sever/Siver/Syver/Sivert/Sivert/Syvert can be the same name. A book called "History of Goodhue County Minnesota" published 1909 has a biography of him. It says Anders was born 09 Nov 1829. The candidate Anders was born 09 Nov 1829. The book says Anders emigrated 1866. The candidate emigrated 1866. The book says Anders had a son Sivert born March 1862 in Norway. The candidate has a son Sivert born March 1862 in Norway. The book says Anders had a first wife Berntine. The candidate first married a Berntine. The book says Berntine died in Norway. The candidate Berntine died in Norway. The book says Anders had daughters Martha, Anna, Sarah (and other children). The candidate had daughters Martha, Anna, and Seri born in Norway. The US census 1880 shows the other children were born in the US. The candidate emigrated from Norway with children Martha, Anna, Seri, and Sivert. The candidate emigrated with siblings. The candidate sister Sigrid and husband are buried in a county near to where Anders is buried. The candidate Anders lives with mother Mali Christensdatter in 1865. The birth record 09 Nov 1829 has candidate Anders with mother Mali Christensdatter. The candidate family who emigrated are traveling with Mali Christensdatter age 60.
More can be found but at the moment no family member is reading this thread.
I think Andrew Severson Lexvold and the candidate Anders Sivertsen are a good fit.
Hi. I am not sure but there are four Lexvold farms in Ål and his day of birth and lastname correspond.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 14:02:54
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quote: Originally posted by JaneC
Okay, I amended my recap to show that so far we have no evidence that Andrew in the USA had a birth name of Anders.
Back in an edit - the tombstone of Andrew S Lexvold is inscribed Anders Severson Lexvold http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=91935545&PIpi=71721916
Perhaps you are right Jane. It seems like he had a "name sake", It was the Lexvold farm in Ål that got me to assume he was a good candidate
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 14:46:29
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Kåre, yes I think the candidate Anders b in Nord-Trondelag is correct because there are too many "coincidences." You made me realize I omitted the source found in USA for "Anders" and I agree, we can't just assume Andrew is ALWAYS Anders. In addition I see your point about Lexvold.
If all Lexvold farms are in Buskerud, why is a boy born in Nord-Trondelag going to later become Lexvold? I can't see the sense of it either.
Several possible approaches:
1) follow the life of Arne born 09 Nov 1829 - track forward in time. Does he marry a Berntine, have children with names that correspond to US records, and then emigrate?
2) follow the life of Anders born 09 Nov 1829 - follow back in time. Is Lexsvold an ancestral home?
3) seek naturalization record and death record for Andrew S Lexvold and develop still more points of matching between him and the candidate Anders (or connections to Arne, or to....). Some descendants might have stories not posted online.
4) consider other, unexpected origins for the name Lexvold - from a wife for example. There must be a reason.
First to check is more children of Andrew. Also, the family (seeming mother and siblings to Anders) emigrating in 1866 seemed to go to same place as Andrew S Lexsvold, but more details about them could be found.
Though I am curious, I won't have time in the coming days to work on this. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/04/2015 : 15:48:06
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This is anecdotal, may or may not apply here. There was a family who came from Hallingdal and settled down near Spring Grove Minnesota. They bought a farm belonging to a family who came from Sigdal and who were using a farm name from Sigdal. After the Hallings bought the farm forever after they went by the Sigdal farm name.
There were people who came from Lexvold (now Leksvol) in Aal who settled in Minnesota. Perhaps these people from the north of Norway bought a farm vacated by people using Lexvold as their name and following the custom in the old home took the name of their farm?
Otherwise, it might be wise to see if there is a farm with a different spelling but similar to Lexvold in the north of Norway, too.
This is from the Digitalarkivet: Lekvold 16a Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* 16b, 16c Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* 16a Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld
There was an Anders Anderson Leksvol Hansebraaten b 8 Aug 1828 Aal on Leksvol who went to America and died there in 1923, but I found no Anders Syverson b. 1829 leaving from Leksvol for US in the new series bygdebøker for Aal. |
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Kåarto
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/04/2015 : 02:14:29
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quote: Originally posted by JaneC
Find a Grave has a Martha Lexvold Johnson (wife of Hogan Johnson) born 20 Oct 1855; died 20 Jan 1956 (sic) in Sacramento, California. A possible for Martha Andersdatter (or Severson) Lexvold.
In Størdal churchbook is recorded birth 20 October 1855 - Martha - born to Anders Sivertsen Rognaas? Præstmo and Berntine Henrika Holgersdatter.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050510030396.jpg
About Lekvold in Sør-Trøndelag - so perhaps the Minnesota family has a connection to a Lekvold farm there - at least it is in the same fylke where they lived in 1865. Andrew and family are Severson in 1880.
Interesting background, Kåre.
****Thanks to Einar for farm name correction. |
Edited by - JaneC on 29/04/2015 14:38:05 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/04/2015 : 13:26:10
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quote: In Størdal churchbook is recorded birth 20 October 1855 - Martha - born to Anders Sivertsen Rognaas? and Berntine Henrika Holgersdatter.
I read Præstmo as the farm name.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/04/2015 : 00:52:35
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Thanks Einar.
US census records below
1875 Minnesota State Census (Ancestry.com transcription) Minneola, Goodhue, Minnesota Andrew Severson [Andrew Lexvold] 44, born Norway [info in brackets is a suggestion from unknown Ancestry user or users] Gr--? Severson 35 b Norway Sarah Severson 15 b Norway Ole Severson 6 b Minnesota Christian Severson 5 b Minnesota Mary Severson 3 b Minnesota Betsy Severson 1 b Minnesota
In the 1880 census as indexed on Ancestry.com, everyone in the family has an alternate name of Lexvold, as a suggestion from an Ancestry.com user (the name Lexvold is not part of the 1880 census itself). The original handwriting is so faint in the copied version that it's about impossible to read.
1880 US Census (again) Holden, Goodhue, Minnesota Andrew Severson 51 b abt 1829 Norway [Andrew Lexvold] [the Lexvold name in brackets is a suggestion from an Ancestry user] Cornelia Severson 42 b abt 1838 Norway [Cornelia Lexvold] [Cornelia Thomason] [alternate names are suggestions from Ancestry user] Martha F. Severson 24 b abt 1856 Norway Sarah Severson 19 b abt 1861 Norway Serie Severson 18 b abt 1862 Norway Ole Severson 10 b Minnesota Christian Severson 9 b Minnesota Mittena Severson 8 b Minnesota Bertene Severson 6 b Minnesota Halbert Severson 4 b Minnesota Mary Thomason 75 b Norway, mother-in-law, widowed
1885 Minnesota State Census Minneola, Goodhue, Minnesota Andrew Lexvold 55 b Norway Cornelia Lexvold 46 b Norway Sever Lexvold 23 b Norway Ole A Lexvold 15 b abt 1870 Minnesota Christ A Lexvold 14 b Minnesota Martina Lexvold 13 b Minnesota Bernhardine Lexvold 11 b Minnesota Halbert Lexvold 9 b Minnesota
1900 Zumbrota, Goodhue, Minnesota A S Lexvold 70 born Nov 1829 Norway, to USA 1867, married 1868 (32 years) Cornilia Lexvold 61 born Oct 1838 Norway, to USA 1861, has had 5 children and 5 are living
1910 Minneola, Goodhue, Minnesota Ole Lexvold 40 b abt 1870 Minnesota Sofia Lexvold 38 Anders Lexvold 80 father, born about 1830 Norway, to USA 1866 Gunhild Lexvold 71 mother, born about 1839 Norway, to USA 1861 Arthur L Lexvold 13 Sidney Lexvold 11 Stella Lexvold 8 Litta Lexvold 4 Ruth Lexvold 2 George Lexvold 0 [11/12]
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/04/2015 : 00:58:54
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Emigration 1866 - Link traveling with Anders Sivertsen et al:
Niels Christophersen Fossum 30 m Gurine Sivertsdatter Fossum* 33 f his wife <----------------------- Rebekka Nielsdatter Fossum* 1 f daughter Mette Nielsdatter* Fossum* 1 f daughter ..........traveling same ship as the Sivertsens below, previously posted..... Hemming Sivertsen Mæhla 39 m <------------- Sivert Hemmingsen Mæhla* 13 m son Ole Hemmingsen* Mæhla* 12 m son Randi Hemmingsdatter Mæhla* 5 f daughter Gurine Hemmingsdatter* Mæhla* 3 f daughter Riborg Hemmingsdatter* Mæhla* 1 f daughter Ole Pedersen Kyllo 34 m Sigrid Sivertsdatter Kyllo* 30 f his wife <--------- Anna Olsdatter Kyllo* 1 f daughter Peter Olsen Kyllo* 4 m son Mali Kirstensdatter 60 f <------------- Anders Sivertsen Rognaas 36 m <------------ Martha Andersdatter Rognaas* 10 f his daughter Anna Andersdatter* Rognaas* 8 f his daughter Sigri Andersdatter* Rognaas* 5 f his daughter Sivert Andersen Rognaas* 4 m son
Believe Gurine is a sister to Anders Sivertsen and also ended up in Goodhue County, Minnesota....needs work
1900 US Census Minneola, Goodhue, Minnesota Nils K Fossom 64 born Nov 1835 Norway, to USA 1867 Rebekka Fossom 36 daughter b March 1864 Norway, to USA 1867 Carl Fossom 31 son b Sep 1868 Minnesota Julia Fossom 23 daughter b March 1877 Minnesota Link
1865 Norway Census Residence: Fossum østre in Øvre Stjørdal Niels Christophersen 31 Øvre Størdalen Husfader g Gaardbruger, Selveier. Gurine Sivertsdatter 33 Øvre Størdalen hans Kone g Rebeka Nielsdatter 1 Øvre Størdalen deres Datter ug !! Nielssen* 1 Øvre Størdalen deres Søn ug
On Find-a-Grave Gurine is called Gurine Hembre Fossum: [ur="http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman=1&GScid=2141600&GSfn=&GSln=Fossum |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/04/2015 : 02:01:10
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quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
This is from the Digitalarkivet: Lekvold 16a Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* 16b, 16c Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld Lekvold* 16a Selbu Tydal Selbu Sør-Trøndelag Folketelling 1865 for 1664P Selbu prestegjeld
Is this one farm plus sub-farms? I can't find it on Finn-Kart.
Here is a Lekvollen in Selbu, marked with a red pin. MAP
Also marked with red pins are the churches in Strinda and Størdal.
It seems realistic that a man born in Størdal (Anders) who moved to Strinda might have had a connection to Lekvold in Selbu (whether or no it is the place marked with the pin). The places marked with the pins are about 30 km apart (about 18-19 miles apart).
Here's a family tree for a family from Lekvoll (Lekvollen) said to have emigrated to Minnesota: Link |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/05/2015 : 07:35:31
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quote: Is this one farm plus sub-farms? I can't find it on Finn-Kart.
Selbu and Tydal are communities, why Lekvollen is related to both is difficult to say.
See map. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/05/2015 : 06:02:09
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Thanks Einar.
An incoming ship's manifest on Canadian Passenger Lists (Ancestry.com) on the Fido, arriving Quebec, shows the Hemming Sivertsen Mæhla family indexed as "Mahla." And it includes son Martin, age 8 (he is omitted in the Norway Heritage manifest for departure previously posted).
Previously posted departure: Hemming Sivertsen Mæhla 39 m Sivert Hemmingsen Mæhla* 13 m son Ole Hemmingsen* Mæhla* 12 m son MARTIN Hemmingsen Mæhla age 8 son <-- arrives Canada with the family Randi Hemmingsdatter Mæhla* 5 f daughter Gurine Hemmingsdatter* Mæhla* 3 f daughter Riborg Hemmingsdatter* Mæhla* 1 f daughter
MARRIAGE RECORD (Family Search) Heming Sivertsen age 21, b 1827 Spouse: Randi Torstensdatter age 15, b 1823 Date: 04 Sep 1848 Place: Nedre Stjørdal, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Sivert Hemingsen Spouse's Father: Torsten Sivertsen
BIRTH (Family Search) Sivert Hemmingsen Birth: 01 Dec 1848 Christening: 01 Jan 1849 Christening Place: Nedre Stjørdal, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Hemming Sivertsen Mother: Randi Torstensdatter
BIRTH RECORD (Family Search) Ole Tobias Hemmingsen Birth Date: 18 Apr 1852 Christening Date: 16 May 1852 Christening Place: Nedre Stjørdal, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Hemming Sivertsen Mother: Randi Torstensdatter
BIRTH RECORD (Family Search) Martin Hemmingsen Birth Date: 28 Sep 1857 Christening Date: 01 Nov 1857 Christening Place: Nedre Stjørdal, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Hemming Sivertsen Mother: Randi Torstensdatter
MARRIAGE RECORD (Family Search) Hemming Sivertsen age 34, born about 1827 Spouse: Kirstine Thomasdatter age 29, born about 1832 Date: 31 May 1861 Place: Nedre Stjørdal, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Sivert Hemmingsen Spouse's Father: Thomas Olsen
BIRTH RECORD (Family Search) Name: Gurina Hemmingsdatter Birth: 22 Mar 1862 Christening Date: 04 May 1862 Christening Place: Nedre Stjørdal, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Hemming Sivertsen Mother: Kristine Thomasdatter
BIRTH RECORD (Family Search) Riborg Hemmingsdatter Birth Date: 20 Feb 1863 Christening Date: 19 Apr 1863 Christening Place: Nedre Stjørdal, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Hemming Sivertsen Mother: Kristina Thomasdatter |
Edited by - JaneC on 02/05/2015 22:15:01 |
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