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jbagaas
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 Posted - 30/03/2012 : 01:02:42
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looking for info. on halvor johannesen.
last info. I found was that he was born in 1863 on the bagaasen
farm in hedmark. his mother was unknown halvorsdatter.
as far as I can find he came to the US in 1884 and changed his
name to bagaason and then to bagaas.
after the 1865 hedmark cencus the whole family do not show up
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 04:12:06
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And probably him in the 1900 Census. I notice that he is listed as being married in 1884 the same year as he immigrated. Do you know if he was married in America or Norway. Pauline is also listed as having immigrated in 1884.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Halvor Bogaus
[Halvor Bogavs]
Age: 37
Birth Date: Mar 1863
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Sacred Heart, Renville, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1884
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Pauline Bogaus
Marriage Year: 1884
Years Married: 16
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway |
Edited by - AntonH on 30/03/2012 16:05:03 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 06:42:28
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Parish books lost in fire 1929 for the periode in question.
Chances of finding his birthdate and parents are vey slight.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/03/2012 06:43:03 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 07:23:48
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Here probably is the death index listing for the son Alfred G. Bagaas age 15 in the 1910 census from www.mnhs.org:
BAGAAS, GEORGE ALFRED
Date of Birth: 24 Apr 1894
Place of Birth: MINNESOTA
Mother Maiden Name: PEDERSON
certid# 1959-MN-015303
Date of Death: 20 Apr 1959
County of Death: RENVILLE
Mother's maiden is given as Pederson.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 07:27:09
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
. I notice that he is listed as being married in 1884 the same year as he immigrated. Do you know if he was married in America or Norway.
From MOMS:
RENVILLE B 384 9/18/1884
JOHANNSNNEN, HALVOR
PEDERSON, PAULINE |
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vivi
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Kċarto
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 11:12:49
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If Johannes was from Ċsnes b. 1863 it will not be possible to find his birth record since the church books from this period were lost in a fire early in the 1900.
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 30/03/2012 15:18:09 |
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jbagaas
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 13:54:49
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WOW,Great info.
I had never seen the name spelled as Bogaus, No wonder I never found him....
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 14:29:11
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| Halvor Torstenson, Halvor's grandfather was a farm owner (gaardbruger?) perhaps he died while owning the place? Is there anything in the probate records, land records, mortgage records concerning him and the farm now coming online at the Digitalarkivet? |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 15:20:53
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quote:
Originally posted by Kċarto
[quote]Originally posted by lyndal40
Is this the family you are referring to. 1865 Census
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0425&kenr=004&bnr=0077&lnr=000
Perhaps the 1865 census is diff. to understand:
Halvor b. 1863, I doubt that his mother was Helene Halvorsdatter b. 1848 the census.
Halvor was "Dattersĝn" Daughter son, grandson to the owners of Bagaasen Halvor and Oleane and Helene and Olivia b. 1851 is the only daughters on the farm, Eberhard, Thodor and Otto are their brothers.
If Helene Halvorsdatter (she was only 15) was his mother Halvor was born out of wedloc.
I belive his mother ?? Halvorsdatter was dead
Halvors father was Johannes (unknown lastname)
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 30/03/2012 15:45:38 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 15:56:53
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Halvor Tostensen and Olia Bergersdatter married Nov. 16. 1835 and oldest son in the 1865 census was Eberhard b. 1844.
Halvor was from farm Telle and Olia from farm Kongelbĉk, fathers; Tosten Toresen and Berger Evensen
see couple #45
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 10/04/2012 17:29:47 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 16:00:49
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Here is the arrival of Halvor and Pauline in America. Destination for both is listed as Sacred Heart.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Halvor Kokken
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Date of Arrival: 13 Jul 1884
Vessel: Polynesian
Search Ship Database:
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland
Roll: C-4534
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Edited by - AntonH on 30/03/2012 16:02:07 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 16:12:30
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quote:
I had never seen the name spelled as Bogaus, No wonder I never found him....
His name in the US Census records was spelled several different ways. Here is the family in 1910.
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Halvor J Bagan
[Halvor Job Bagaas]
[Halvor J Bagans]
Age in 1910: 47
Birth Year: 1863
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Sacred Heart, Renville, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1884
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Paulina Bagan
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household Members:
Name Age
Halvor J Bagan
47
Paulina Bagan
44
Mangnut Bagan
24
Enga Bagan
23
Henry Bagan
21
Ingvald Bagan
19
Ole Bagan
17
Alfred Bagan
16
Hilda Bagan
14
Jennie Bagan
12
Elmer Bagan
10
Angnes Bagan
8
Skincer Bagan
7
Dixon Bagan
5
Charls Bagan
3
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Kċarto
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 16:13:37
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Kokkin (Kokkon) was a farm at Gjesaasen in Ċsnes, the same for Krogen (Pauline Krogen), both farms are from the same area as Bagaasen.
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 30/03/2012 16:19:56 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/03/2012 : 16:23:47
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Hmm, there seems to be two families with husband and wife of similar name, birth years and immigration dates living in Minnesota. One is listed as living in Sacred Heart, Minnesota and one from Sparta, Minnesota. The two places are only 25 miles apart and many of the children in the two Census entries seem to be the same.
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Halvor J Bagaas
Age in 1910: 47
Birth Year: 1863
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Sparta, Chippewa, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1884
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Pauline P Bagaas
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Halvor J Bagaas
47
Pauline P Bagaas
47
Ole H Bagaas
17
Alfred G Bagaas
15
Spencer W Bagaas
7
Thedore A Bagaas
5
Charles M Bagaas
3
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