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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 03/05/2012 : 17:42:21
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Here is another record for Erling L Johansen. It list his wife as Helen and address as 54 Linden Blvd, Brooklyn, New York.
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Mary Erling Lorang Johansen
Arrival Date: 1 Jan 1943
Port of Arrival: Vanceboro, Maine, United States
Arrival Contact: Wife Helen
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1913
Birth Place: Frederikstad, Norway
Birth Country: Norway
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Record has photo?: No |
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rontappen
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 20:33:48
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Originally posted by eibache
Egil Jentoft Johansen is a very likely candidate. His parents Johan Adolv Johansen and Sofie Anna Marie Andersdatter were married Jan 1 1901, see #2. This was Johan Adolfs 2nd marriage.
Johan Adolvs first wife was Olianna Zahl Andersdatter, the mother of his son Reidar #9. They were married Oct 11 1894, see #12. Johan Adolvs father was Johan A Iversen, Myklebostad.
The 2nd child listed in the 1910 census, Olga was the daughter of Sofie Anna Marie Andersdatter (his second wife) Olga Sal was born out of wedlock, see #22. Note that Adolf Johansen gave the info about this "leiermaal".
In the 1900 census Sofie is a servant and Johan Adolv is a widower, 1900.
Thank you for this information but I was wondering if you could answer a question for me. How is it that Johan Adolv Johansen's father is named Johan A Iversen, Myklebostad? How did the last name change? Was this common during these times for names to be changed or altered? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 21:35:04
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Norway's naming practice in the 1800s was patronymic. You are known by your father's first name with son or datter added depending on your sex.
Johan Arnt Iversen, Myklebostad 's father was named Iver so Johan is an Iversen. Myklebostad is the name of the farm that Johan Arnt Iversen lived on. |
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rontappen
Starting member
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 22:20:35
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| That is so interesting, yet confusing...haha. Would you be able to tell me where I can find more information on this? How do I keep going back in time to find ancestors when the last name continues to change? Thank you once again for taking the time to answer my questions, I am very new to all of this and I hope I'm not annoying you with stupid questions :) |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 22:31:17
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Questioning is how one learns, not a problem...
There is an Erling Johansen in the 1950 Tax list of Tjøtta, Nordland fylke, Norway. The farm is #98 Skogsholmen, #5 and the folks are Nelly and Erling Johansen.
http://www.dokpro.uio.no/cgi-bin/stad/matr50
Things you might want to do would be to get the death certificate of Egil to mine for additional information. This is mostly to be sure that you have the "right" Egil.
Do you know what Egil's occupation was?
The brother Gert that died in an accident--there could be a newspaper story about that.
Lots of different things to pick up helpful details and to document your findings.
Here is an address for very helpful Norwegian research topics:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/follesdal.htm
And here are videos which should help with the basics of family history research.
https://familysearch.org/learn/getting_started_step_1
Always leave your curiosity on and in gear! |
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/05/2012 22:38:57 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/05/2012 : 00:00:53
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Johan Arnt Iversen, Myklebostad was born Febr 5 1826, see record #5. His parents were Iver Arntsen and Cicilia Christensdatter, Møkkelbostad (=Myklebostad).
Helena Susanna Pedersdatter was born Febr 2 1832, see record #35. Her parents were Peder Hallesen and Susanna Elisabeth.
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Edited by - eibache on 05/05/2012 00:14:44 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2012 : 09:40:50
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Iver Arntsen and Cicilia Christensdatter, Møkkelbostad also had the following children:
Ane Kierstina 1803,
Arent 1806,
Petter Christian 1811,
Elisabeth Maria 1813,
Johanna Tanke 1815,
Knudt Henrich 1817, and
Ingebor Cicilia Maria 1822. |
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Edited by - eibache on 05/05/2012 10:11:24 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2012 : 10:14:21
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Iver Arntsen and his parents and siblings in 1801.
Cicilia Marie Christensdatter and her parents and siblings in 1801.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 05/05/2012 10:19:10 |
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rontappen
Starting member
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Posted - 05/05/2012 : 13:52:46
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I must thank you guys again!!! Without your help I would be completely lost! I see Iver Arntsen 's father is Arnt Knudsen born 1747 and his wife Kirsten Larsdatter born 1753. After putting these names into ancestry.com I found some more info that I hope you can confirm as true?
They list his name as Arndt Knudsen born abt 1750 in Aakero, Tjotta, Nordland, Norway and they list his wife as Kirsten Larsen, no birth date but they do show they were married 09 Oct 1774. Arndt 's parents are listed as Kund Jorgensen born 1709 in Aakero, Tjotta, Nordland, Norway and his wife Lisabeth Arnesen born 1713 in Alstahaug, Nordland, Norway.
Because this information was entered into the website by someone without any references I would really like Einar or Jkmarler to tell me if this info is correct or not before adding it to my family tree. Thank you again for all your help and time. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2012 : 15:51:49
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Wiggling leaves could lead you astray....
I'm certain that you can trust the research from Egil Johansen b. 1903 and backwards in time that Einar and others on this site have done. I don't know the who, what, when , where, why of the data you mentioned from Ancestry as I have no access.
Here you have the links to the records for each generation.
But speaking as someone from outside, not related, the weakness in the whole thing is whether or not your Egil Johnsen is the same person as the Egil Johansen b. 1903 in Tjøtta. As a seasoned veteran researcher, fuddy dud, making sure that you have the right person is critical, before you accept or reject any far etter folk.
Do yourself a favor, get the hard records on Egil here before leaping off into the other potential generations.
Jackie M. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2012 : 22:28:10
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Arnt Knudsen, Blomsøe and Kirsten Larsdatter were married Dom 19 Trinit 1774 (= Oct 9 1774) - see copul2 right page.
No parish records available before 1714 for Alstahaug/Tjøttø/Herrø. |
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Edited by - eibache on 05/05/2012 22:39:14 |
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