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richtomas
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 Posted - 06/05/2012 : 01:47:07
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I am trying to find information on my G Grandfather, Hjalmer Kallerud's father, Johannes Pedersen. Specifically, any brothers or sisters he had. Johannes' parents were Peder Olsen Kallerud and Pernille Johannesdatter Kallerud. When I get this far back doing research in other countries, I have a hard time and hope someone out there can help me.
I have some documents and personal info on all family members that may help, located on my family tree website at www.tomaszewski.tribalpages.com and the password is gateway, or feel free to ask me any info you may need.
Thanks for your help, its greatly appreciated |
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richtomas
Starting member
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 01:52:50
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A death date would also be appreciated, if possible.
I forgot to mention in my original post, Johannes was born December 27, 1834 in Vestre Toten Parish, I dont know what city, but would love to find out.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 02:21:46
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When was Hjalmer born? Any idea where in Norway he was born?
When did Hjalmer immigrate to the US? |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2012 : 02:38:07
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1942 WW II draft registration cards show a Hjalmer Kallerud who lived in Bayfield, Wisconsin. Born 29 Aug 1884.
The 1930 US census lists the Bayfield Hjalmer as born Norway and having immigrated in 1914.
Is this your Hjalmer?
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richtomas
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 02:52:35
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| yes, thats him |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 03:05:02
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Rich, I am a little surprised that you need help. Looking at your website it seems that you have found out quite a bit about the ancestors. You have images from the various census from Digitalarkivet as well as images from the scanned church books. Here is Hjalmars mother and Johannes Pederson's wife Grethe Olsdatter from the 1865 Census. You might tell us why you are looking for help since you seem to be able to find the original documents on your own so well. You seem to already have his name, which you give as Ole Hjalmar Johannes Kalerud as well as his parents and at least some of the grandparents.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0714&kenr=005&bnr=0034&lnr=00 |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/05/2012 03:09:58 |
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richtomas
Starting member
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 03:07:10
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| the images i have and most info i have, i recieved from other people that were nice enough to help me |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 03:11:40
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| Have you done any searching on your own through the scanned church books or perhaps through a bygdebok. |
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richtomas
Starting member
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 03:13:27
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| where would i go to do that? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2012 : 03:29:24
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Here is a starting point. Click on the link below. The page gives the birth record for Johannes Petersen. See #8. This is where the original data come from. You can then search in this section of the Digitalarkivet for other children of the same parents.
[bhttp://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9329&idx_id=9329&uid=ny&idx_side=-80[/b]
From your website I learned that Johannes was born in Vestre Toten, which if you Google you can learn is in Oppland. If you go to the main part of the website of Digitalarkive you can look at the scanned church books, find Oppland and Vestre Toten and page through the part you want. |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/05/2012 03:33:28 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2012 : 03:43:38
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Ole Hjalmar was born out of wedlock. His birth/baptism record from the church books of Svarstad parish in Lardal clerical district of Vestfold, Norway -
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4233&idx_id=4233&uid=ny&idx_side=-22
His parents marry a very short time later also in Svarstad parish of Lardal - (bonus info -- Johannes was a baker)
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4233&idx_id=4233&uid=ny&idx_side=-164
You can learn to read the records (you are lucky, the handwriting is beautiful in these particular books) - the first major obstacle is to study and learn what the column headings say. Those are translated online for our use in this useful article -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005.
The Digitalarkivet web site - http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
Clicking on "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] will bring up another screen and listing to choose from. Choose "Lesa skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Read the digitised parish records" [English version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
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Hopkins
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 04:10:12
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Rich, I am not sure where you live but if you live within driving distance of various Universities in Minnesota, North Dakota, or Wisconsin you can perhaps access the Bygdbøker, plural for Bygdebok. The use of these books and which ones are available are explained here. You can also at sometimes obtain the books as a inter-library loan.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/opplandbb.html#Toten |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2012 : 04:12:46
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You can also ask the library of the University of North Dakota to do a search for you for a fee. Here is their collection of Bygdøker on Toten.
Toten — Arne G. Brekke Bygdebok Collection
Toten
Fylke
Oppland
Includes
Vestre Toten
Østre Toten
Notes coordinates are for Vestre Toten
Author Title Year Call Number Type Notes
Røse, S. Totens bygdebok, v. 1 1952 DL576.T67 T6 General
Gjørvad, O. Totens bygdebok, v. 2 1953 DL576.T67 T6 General
Totens bygdebok, v. 3 1968 DL576.T67 T6 General
Ødegaard, S.-E. Totens bygdebok, v. 4 1984 DL576.T67 T6 Farms Totenvika
Ødegaard, S.-E., et al. Totens bygdebok, v. 5 1998 DL576.T67 T6 Farms Eina
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 17:21:31
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You might also want to join the Totenslag an organization which has a dedicated genealogist:
http://www.totenlag.org/ |
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