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oih2
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 Posted - 03/06/2012 : 11:47:50
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Hi !
I am looking for Kristian Olsen and his daughter Olava, I have them
arriving to New York 9th of June 1870 with the ship Anglia. After that
I am not able to find them.
The Norwegian emigrant lists says their destination was La Crosse,
Wisconsin.
Kristian Olsen is born 4 th. July 1836 in Oslo/ Christiania and
Olava 10 th of April 1855 in Oslo ( so she is not 11 as the emigration papers indicates )
In 1889 one of his other daughters visited the US, her destination was the Dakotas, that could be a visit to one of the above persons or both. That is the only indication of their whereabouts I have.
Odd
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 15:53:12
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Here is his arrival along with his daughter from Ancestry.com. A Kay Hanson has modified the name in the Ancestry.com record to give his complete name of Kristian.
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: E Olsen
Arrival Date: 9 Jun 1870
Birth Year: abt 1836
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Anglia |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 16:18:45
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Here is a candidate for you. Houston County, Minnesota is across the river from La Crosse Wisconsin. Birth month is Feb not April.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Olava Bakke
Age: 45
Birth Date: Feb 1855
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Spring Grove, Houston, Minnesota
[Houston]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1870
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Martin H Bakke
Marriage Year: 1877
Years Married: 23
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 8
Mother: How many children: 8
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin H Bakke 46
Olava Bakke 45
Ida E Bakke 22
Notta G Bakke 17
Helmer Bakke 19
Paul O Bakke 15
Clarus E Bakke 11
Minnie O Bakke 10
Bennie A Bakke 6 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 17:23:01
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In 1889 one of his other daughters visited the US, her destination was the Dakotas, that could be a visit to one of the above persons or both.
Perhaps this person?
South Dakota, Territorial Census, 1885
Name: Chris Olsa??
Age: 48
Birth Year: abt 1837
Birth Place: Norway
Race: White
Census Date: 1 Jun 1885
Census Location: District 99, Moody, Dakota Territory
Census Page #: 35
Enumeration District: 99
Other Census data show this person to be born in 1840 or 1841 and to have immigrated in 1867, may not be a good fit.
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Edited by - AntonH on 03/06/2012 17:38:58 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 17:33:50
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Here is a candidate for you. Houston County, Minnesota is across the river from La Crosse Wisconsin. Birth month is Feb not April.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Olava Bakke
Age: 45
Birth Date: Feb 1855
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Spring Grove, Houston, Minnesota
[Houston]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1870
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Martin H Bakke
Marriage Year: 1877
Years Married: 23
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 8
Mother: How many children: 8
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin H Bakke 46
Olava Bakke 45
Ida E Bakke 22
Notta G Bakke 17
Helmer Bakke 19
Paul O Bakke 15
Clarus E Bakke 11
Minnie O Bakke 10
Bennie A Bakke 6
This Olava's father is named Olaus Duklet:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDQN-92N |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 19:46:44
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Here are all the Olava aged 18-36 in the northern part of Dakota Territory in 1885 (the part that became North Dakota in 1889):
Name Age Relation Occupation Nativity Address City ED County
Anderson, Olava 23 Wife Housewife MN 13-015-19 Traill
Clementson, Olava 19 Wife Norway 15-039-22 Cass
Erickson, Olava 22 Wife Norway 67-030-37 Richland
Larson, Olava 30 Wife Norway Grand Forks City 09A-114-02 Grand Forks
Mekkelson, Olava 18 Wife Norway 34-030-26 Steele
Nelson, Olava 26 Husband's Sister Cook Norway 34-029-26 Steele
Nielsen, Olava 36 Wife Norway 14-021-09 Traill
Olava Larson would the exact right age but her oldest 2 children were born in Norway, so doesn't match information regarding migration.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/06/2012 : 00:34:03
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The spelling is a little off but this person is a candidate.
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Olava Oleson
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1856
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Cass, Dakota Territory
Race: White
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Occupation: Servant |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 03:59:20
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A person in La Crosse County that may be worth looking at.
Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1826-1908
Name: Selma Brandin
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1886
Birth Place: La Crosse, La Crosse, Wisconsin
Gender: Female
Father's Name: Nilz Nelson Brandin
Mother's name: Olava Olson
FHL Film Number: 1302887 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/06/2012 : 04:15:42
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In spite of messy transcribing, I think this is the family of Olava Brandin. The match is not exact, the birth is Jul 1859 not Jul 1855 and the immigration year is 1871 not 1870 but this is likely the Olava Olson from La Crosse, Wisconsin.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: S Olive B*Deen
[S Olive Bumdeen]
Age: 40
Birth Date: Jul 1859
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Big Cottonwood, Salt Lake, Utah
[Salt Lake]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1871
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Niels B*Deen
Marriage Year: 1878
Years Married: 22
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 4
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Niels B*Deen 54
S Olive B*Deen 40
J Selma B*Deen
13
A Lilly B*Deen 6
O Nephi B*Deen 4
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oih2
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2012 : 14:17:21
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Thanks for helping out.
The most promising one I feel is Olava Oleson from Cass county, but there is no way I can tell for sure.
The family from " digitalarkivet " is the correct family,
Here are some persons that comes from Ullensager that emigrated the same day and have La Crosse as their destination. I suspect that they traveled together to La Crosse.
I have looked for this other persons as well to see if i could find out where they ended up, without result that is.
17266 Oslo 0985A 1870 Mai 24 Kristoffer Larsen Elstadmoen m G Arb. 21 Ullensager La Crosse 1910 Norsk Spd. 96,96 Scotia
17267 Oslo 0985B 1870 Mai 24 Dortea Arnesdatter f G 23 Ullensager La Crosse 1911 Norsk Spd. 96,96 Scotia
17268 Oslo 0986A 1870 Mai 24 Halvor Olsen Nordmyhren m G Arb. 58 Ullensager La Crosse 1912 Norsk Spd. 145,24 Scotia
17269 Oslo 0986B 1870 Mai 24 Anne Marie f G 40 Ullensager La Crosse 1913 Norsk Spd. 145,24 Scotia
17270 Oslo 0986C 1870 Mai 24 Rekka Larsen f u 20 Ullensager La Crosse 1914 Norsk Spd. 145,24 Scotia
17274 Oslo 0990A 1870 Mai 24 Kristian Olsen m G Best. Af Dahl Tręsl.fabr. 34 Eidsvold La Crosse 1918 Norsk Spd. 66 Scotia
17275 Oslo 0990B 1870 Mai 24 Olava Emilie f u 11 Eidsvold La Crosse 1919 Norsk Spd. 66 Scotia
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/06/2012 : 15:42:18
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Just out of curiosity, which sister came in 1889? Did she stay forever or just for a visit? If she did stay stateside for a length of time, if she returned to Norway and was still alive in the 1910 census she may have answered the questions where she was during her time in US....
In the 1865 census they were on a farm called Tangenmoen were there any other farm names which they might have adopted / adapted for their surname in US?
The Wisconsin State Historical Society website has the pre-1907 vital records database. It has 4 Olava Olson marriages:
Olava Olson m. Albert M. Hanson
27 July 1884 Buffalo County
Olava Olson m. Andreas N. Vik
5 June 1887 Trempealeau County
Olava Olson m. Hermand M. Wivelstad
25 Sept 1886 Trempealeau County
Olava Olson m. Carlot Anderson
26 Dec 1889 Jackson County
The only one of these which can definitely be eliminated is Olava Wivelstad. She's in www.findagrave.com as having been born 1868, dying 1935.
Cass County North Dakota marriages from 1870s-1944 are searchable here:
http://library.ndsu.edu/db/marriage/
But I did not find an Olava Olson. However a number of early marriages didn't make it into the county records and perhaps there is one for her.
Nearby counties would be Clay County, Minnesota searchable at www.mncounty.com and
Traill County pre 1900 marriages at www.usgenweb.com, choose North Dakota, choose Traill county. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/06/2012 16:07:47 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 16:33:00
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There is a Halvor Olsen living in Wisconsin in the 1880 Census that might fit with the passenger list you posted. However he seems to have more children than can be explained by your list. Vernon County is next to La Crosse County..
Name: Halvor Olson
Age: 68
Birth Year: abt 1812
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Jefferson, Vernon, Wisconsin
Has wife Lesil age 50 and five children, four born in Norway and one born Wisconsin
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oih2
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2012 : 16:57:38
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The sister that went over in 1889 was Anna, but it was just for a visit as I have her as a witness when another sister babtized a child in July 1890 in Oslo. She could have emigrated on a later stage as I can not find her
in the Norway censuses for 1900 or 1910. 2 of the other sisters Ragna and Mina both married Kristoffersen and emigrated to Pennsylvania 1891 and 1893.
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Anna Olsen
Name: Anna Olsen
Arrival Date: 5 Aug 1889
Birth Year: abt 1869
Age: 20
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: Dakota
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Servia
Search Ship Database: Search the Servia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Yes, I have tried to find both Olava and Christian for marriages in N.Dakota at the " ndsu " sites, no result for me either.
I have never seen another name than Olsen used on this family, Christian was not a farmer so they did not get a farmname. At Tangensmoen he tried to start a business in getting oil from the trees without
any succes.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/06/2012 : 17:23:58
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So Christian was sort of an entrepreneur...
Did Olava have an additional middle name besides Emilie (Amalia)?
I guess the most usual meaning & use of the name "Dakota" would be Dakota Territory and after 2 Nov 1889 North and South Dakota. Even today my cousins from Minnesota always wonder how things are going in Dakota... But there are a couple of counties named Dakota--in Minnesota and Nebraska and towns named Dakota in Turner county Georgia, Stephenson County, Illinois, Winona county, Minnesota as well as 2 named Dakota City in Humboldt County, Iowa and Dakota county, Nebraska.
Its rather curious about the sisters going to Pennsylvania. The earliest crude oil production in US was in Pennsylvania, 1869 Titusville. Do you know when the sisters died or about their families? There a couple of newspaper websites online in which obituaries could be searched.
Here is a listing from the Biography Index at the Institute for Regional studies site--person might be worth checking on:
Jacobson, Olava Amalie Olson North Dakota Federation of Women's Clubs Pioneer Mother Project Records, Indexes and Biographies [microfilm] : Complete Biographies Series., ca. 1938-1953. Microfilm CT3260.N56 1989 [Reels 3-5] |
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/06/2012 17:33:18 |
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