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mariare
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  18:50:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I’m looking for Alma’s surname and her living descendants.
She was born in Norway around the turn of the century 1899-1900.

In 1955 she lives in: 151 Garden ave, Manistique, Michigan.

I have letters she wrote to my grandma and grandpa, and there she says she have 8 children named Gudrun, Ingrid, Esther, Ellen, Ruth, Sigrid, Rolf and Verner. (She also mentioned some surnames of the married daughters, but I don’t think I can write them here?)
She visited us in Norway twice and I have a picture of her and my grandparents. In my childhood we always talked about her as “aunt Alma” – and I thought she was a cousin of my grandma, but after reading her letter I wonder if she was working in my great grandfathers restaurant or being their neighbor or something?

If anyone knows her name and her surname – I could find out a lot more about her. Now every seach stops with my missing of the surname.

Edited by - mariare on 22/01/2013 18:51:35

AntonH
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  19:20:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A possible candidate.

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Alma Rustad
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Home in 1930: Manistique, Schoolcraft, Michigan
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1912
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Antone Rustad
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household Members:
Name Age
Antone Rustad 60
Alma Rustad40
Ruth Rustad 16
Gudrun Rustad 14
Ralph Rustad 13
Ingrid Rustad 11
Esther Rustad 8
Ellen Rustad 6
Vernard Rustad 3
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/01/2013 19:21:39
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  19:23:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Death notice for Alma Rustad

Social Security Death Index
Name: Alma Rustad
SSN: 379-34-0477
Last Residence: 49854 Manistique, Schoolcraft, Michigan, United States of America
Born: 19 Jan 1889
Died: Feb 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (1952)
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  19:28:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage record of Alma K.E. Gunderson & Anton Rustad:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N32R-8DZ
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mariare
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  19:37:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This must be the right Alma. Thank you both for helping me. Now I'm able to find her birth in Norway...
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  19:37:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Alma Gundersen in the 1910 Norwegian census:

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036373004656
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mariare
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  21:00:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you again. I really hope to find some of her living descendants one day. Maybe some of them will read this?
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mariare
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  21:23:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If anyone else should have any interest:
I found her in the 1900-census in Christiania (Oslo):
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f00301&personpostnr=173502&merk=173502
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  22:41:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alma Rustad at findagrave.com, her middle initial K = Kaspara?:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=rustad&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=24&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=23630888&df=all&
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/01/2013 :  23:02:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a death notice for a Ralph Rustad, approximate age from the 1930 & 1940 census fairly consistent. Since he died in 2011, the survivors may still be alive including sister Ellen Harsh:

http://www.memorialsolutions.com/sitemaker/sites/HarryJ1/obit.cgi?user=339442

Here is a synopsis of a Vernard Rustad's life adapted from SSDI information:

VERNARD RUSTAD was born 16 August 1926, got Social Security number 373-22-6597 (indicating Michigan,) and died 03 September 2011.

Daughter / sister Gudrun, single, living in Illinois in 1940:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KW4W-3Y9

Daughter / sister Ingrid, single, living in Illinois in 1940, incorrectly ascribed her employer's last name Smythe:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KW47-PRS

Edited by - jkmarler on 22/01/2013 23:37:01
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/01/2013 :  00:06:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the arrival of Alma Gundersen. Her mother is listed as Marie Gundersen.

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Alma Gundersen
Arrival Date: 24 Jul 1912
Birth Date: abt 1890
Birth Location: Norway
Birth Location Other: chra
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oscar II
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/01/2013 :  00:11:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alma leaving Norway in 1912.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=211951&merk=211951#ovre
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/01/2013 :  00:26:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ingrid Rustad born in Michigan and probably the person found by Jackie in Illinois in 1940, could be this person getting married in 1943.

Cook County, Illinois Marriage Index, 1930-1960
Name: Ingrid Rustad
Marriage Date: 2 Sep 1943
Spouse: Earl Spiegler Jr.
Marriage Location: Cook County, IL
Marriage license: {7C06E008-5EF4-4877-B234-6830A332BF85}
File Number: 1786989
Archive Collection Name: Cook County Genealogy Records (Marriages)
Archive repository location: Chicago, IL
Archive repository name: Cook County Clerk
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/01/2013 :  01:55:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a Family Tree on Ancestry.com owned by aliceflu48 that contains a Eric Spiegler Jr. married to a Ingrid R.
Birth 18 DEC 1918 in Manistique, Schoolcraft County, Michigan
Death 12 JAN 1998 in Lindenhurst, Lake County, Illinois

They have at least one son Ronald E. Spiegler
Birth 19 SEP 1948 in Chicago, Illinois
Death 10 AUG 2001 in Waukegan, Lake County, Illinois

And one child listed as Private

If you google aliceflu48 perhaps you will be able to e-mail her and obtain the names of some living descendants of Ingrid Rustad.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/01/2013 :  02:37:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Probably the arrival of Alma Gundersen. Her mother is listed as Marie Gundersen.

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Alma Gundersen
Arrival Date: 24 Jul 1912
Birth Date: abt 1890
Birth Location: Norway
Birth Location Other: chra
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oscar II



Curious indeed. Alma is travelling to her friend Marie Pettersen in Manistique, Michigan. The person on the line above her is Stina Andersen age 72, widowed travelling to her sons, looks like "Arta Reestad" also in Manistique, Michigan. Stina has lived in US 1909-1911. Interesting since Alma married Anton on 30 July 1912, 6 days after landing in US.

Here is Anton with his mother Stina in 1910 in Manistique:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MLTQ-DRB

Edited by - jkmarler on 23/01/2013 02:55:21
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mariare
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Posted - 23/01/2013 :  16:34:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm so grateful for all the help.
Yes, it's the right persons you have found. I will look for Stina Andersen in Oslo before she left for America in 1909. She could be the reason of why Alma left for America,
Alma's mother was a poor widow with many children and no job. Alma was her oldest daughter, and she was working in the hotel in 1910 .
I can't find her connection to my family. In her letters she says that my grandpa and grandma was "her home in Norway".

Her first child, Sigrid Rustad, is not mentioned in the census given in the beginning og this tread. (maybe she had already moved away from her parents?)
She was born in 1912 or 1913. In 1955 Alma says in a letter that "she is the oldest child of mine, and she lives in Minneapolis, and she has two daugthers.

If Sigrid was born in 1912, Alma must have been pregnant when she arrived USA?
I also wondered about Alma getting married shortly after the arrival - when all records in Norway said she when to America to "earn money"?

I'll try to contact the mail-adress you gave me..

PS. Esther was married to a man named Franck Dalla Valle and she moved to Chicago.
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