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Aili_Dupuis
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 Posted - 06/08/2012 : 17:50:26
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Hello!
I've been researching my great grandfather's lineage without much success. All I know is his name was Martin Matson and he was born in Norway in 1869 (familysearch says 1870, but I am going by his grave marker). Both of his parents were born in Norway, but I don't know their names.
I know he had a half brother named John Knudson/Knutson who was born circa 1881 in Norway, so his mother had to have remarried when he was a child.
According to a newspaper article from Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada, he emigrated from Norway to North Dakota in 1892.
He married Minnie Peterson, who was born in the US to parents of Norwegian descent.
He went to Claresholm, Alberta in 1902, but he stayed working in Munich North Dakota for another 8 years and the family emigrated to Claresholm, Alberta, Canada in 1910.
In the 1916 Canadian census they had the following children:
Myrtle Matson age 11- born in United States
Clarence Matson age 9 - born in United States
Emmett Matson age 7 - born in United States
Rudolph Matson age 4 - born in Alberta
Clara Matson age 2 - born in Alberta
Martin is listed as "Employer" and worked on his farm. He also had two labourers on the census Conrad Anderson and Carl Omet, both from Norway.
Minnie and Martin went on to have several more children after that: Orran, Amy, Alvin and Richel (Rachel), who died in infancy.
Martin passed away in 1932 in Claresholm. Anyone else who may have answers to where his family came from and what their names were are no longer living. The news article also says he is survived by a nephew, but the name is illegible (looks like Aspjour Stuelcken).
My grandmother was Clara Olena Matson, and I also recall her mentioning cousins in Norway - one named Thora. Another family member named Severina (sp) left Norway to go to New York to become a hat designer.
Does anyone have any Matson relatives in Norway who may know this family?
Thanks so much! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 18:30:15
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Originally posted by Aili_Dupuis
All I know is his name was Martin Matson and he was born in Norway in 1869 (familysearch says 1870, but I am going by his grave marker). Both of his parents were born in Norway, but I don't know their names.
What's the reference from familysearch, which base ? |
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Aili_Dupuis
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2012 : 20:39:22
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Have you looked at www.familysearch.org in the 1900 US census for Martin? That census usually gives a month and year for birth and a year of migration. It might provide useful details. Likewise the 1911 Canadian census (which Ancestry has) also asks for a month and year of birth.
For a long shot you might also want to look at the same website at the Norway Births & Baptisms database. There are something on the order of 7,000,000 entries and you may luck into the right one. One caveat, that database doesnot have every birth or baptism, even if you find a likely one it may not be the correct one! |
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/08/2012 21:38:21 |
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 21:31:54
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Probably born Martin Madsen.
And he had a brother John Knudsen/Knutsen born ca 1881 in Norway.
His mother married 2. time as a widow to Knud ??.
Acc to traditional Norwegian maming practice Martins father was Mads (Unknown lastname) and Johns father was Knud (Unknown lastname)
Digitalarkivet is temporary down, his brother John should exits in the 1900 census (If he stayed in Norway)
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Edited by - Kåarto on 06/08/2012 21:33:12 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 21:40:53
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Originally posted by Aili_Dupuis
The news article also says he is survived by a nephew, but the name is illegible (looks like Aspjour Stuelcken).
Asbjørn Stueland (22 May 1909 - 23 Nov 1996) ??
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Edited by - jwiborg on 06/08/2012 21:43:11 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 23:07:13
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Here is also an Asbjorn Stueland born about 1910 from Varhaug, Stavanger.
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Asbjorn Stueland
Birth Date: abt 1910
Age: 40
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 17 Nov 1950
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Durban
[Port Elizabeth]
[Cape Town]
Ship Name: Carnarvon Castle
Search Ship Database:
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 148766 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 23:11:48
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And this on probably the same person as mentioned by Jan Peter
Web: Norway Burial Index, DIS-Norge, 1700-2010
Name: Asbjørn Toralf Stueland
Death Date: 23 Nov 1996
Burial Date: 29 Nov 1996
Burial Place: Hå, Rogaland, Norway
Age: 87
Birth Date: 22 May 1909 |
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Aili_Dupuis
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 23:55:31
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Thanks everyone for your help, I really appreciate it!
I checked the 1900 US Census, however the "town" where he lived (Munich, North Dakota) wasn't officially founded until 1904 and no census was done there until after they were long gone.
The 1911 Canadian Census lists Martin's family and his birth-date as September 1869. One more little piece of the puzzle - thanks jkmarler!
Kåre - from my understanding of the dates Martin's mom was married first to his father (Mads?) and widowed, then remarried John's father (Knud?). Unfortunately John also left Norway in 1896 and ended up in Claresholm, so he won't be in the census.
Jan Peter & lyndal40 - the nephew's name could definitely be Asbjørn, so thank you for that! Not too sure about the surname or if they had any ties to South Africa.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/08/2012 : 00:02:44
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Originally posted by Aili_Dupuis
Kåre - from my understanding of the dates Martin's mom was married first to his father (Mads?) and widowed, then remarried John's father (Knud?).
That is a correct understanding of the traditional Norwegian naming practice.
Madsen; Mads son.
Knudsen; Knuds son.
But as alaways, no rules without exception.
Kåre
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/08/2012 : 00:07:37
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Martin Matson travelling to Canada, no family members named.
Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935
Name: Martin Matson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Arrival Port: North Portal, Saskatchewan
Date of Arrival: 1 Feb 1910
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Citizenship: American |
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/08/2012 : 00:12:59
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A possible match for the brother of Martin in the 1900 US Census.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: John R Knutsen
[John R Knutson]
Age: 20
Birth Date: Feb 1880
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Minneapolis Ward 6, Hennepin, Minnesota
[Hennepin]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1896
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 07/08/2012 : 00:16:34
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Originally posted by Aili_Dupuis
Hi jkmarler,
Thank you for your reply! Familysearch brought up the 1916 Canadian census records https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KM52-KVQ. His birth-date was estimated as 1870.
Another option that will take time and include ca 300 persons is to search for both Martin Madsen 1869-70 and John Knudsen 1880-82 in Familysearch looking after the same parish and mother.
Genealogy often take time.
Kåre |
Edited by - Kåarto on 07/08/2012 00:18:13 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/08/2012 : 01:30:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Aili_Dupuis
I checked the 1900 US Census, however the "town" where he lived (Munich, North Dakota) wasn't officially founded until 1904 and no census was done there until after they were long gone.
Munich is located in Cavalier County and yes Cavalier County is covered in the 1900 census. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/08/2012 : 01:45:23
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Probably Asbjørn and his family in the 1910 Norwegian census.
NHDC 1910
Same as Jan Peters, english oriented census |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/08/2012 03:24:07 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/08/2012 : 01:52:20
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Interesting Jacob Stueland traveled to Grand Forks North Dakota.
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Jacob Stueland
Arrival Date: 21 Mar 1909
Birth Year: abt 1870
Birth Location: Norway
Birth Location Other: farsund
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Campania |
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