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jkmarler
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JaneC
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jkmarler
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 Posted - 31/03/2016 : 05:37:45
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But Mrs. Emma Thompson of Duluth, Minnesota is listed as a survivor in the brother Bennie's obit in the 1960's
The granddaughter Pearl is a child of Emma's, too. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 31/03/2016 05:38:26 |
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JaneC
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Posted - 31/03/2016 : 05:41:47
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And Find a Grave mentions the 1920 census with granddaughter Pearl. The siblings on FAG seem taken from that census.
1910 census in Worth county, Iowa, Emma is with the family:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iaworth/data/1910Census/Brook1910.html
A candidate for Bjorn, for the shoebox - FAG info is contradictory.
On Ørpen in Sigdal, 1865:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038089008694
Krødsherred, Sigdal, Buskerud
Confirmation record lists
Bjørn Ellingsen, Orpen born 02 Dec 1844
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1131&idx_id=1131&uid=ny&idx_side=-200
Here is the 1930 census in Worth county, Iowa. Pearl Orpen age 19 still living with grandmother Anne, uncle Otto, and family:
http://iagenweb.org/worth/data/brookfld.htm
Also noted in the 1930 transcription above is Tollef A Orpen and wife (a misspelling of Joran). He could be the Tollef Aslesen on Orpen in the posted 1865 census in Sigdal in Buskerud fylke., |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/03/2016 : 15:20:02
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There are two Bjorn Ellingsons in Worth county, Iowa in 1900. Here is the family with daughter Emma Bjorn as Bunt b. Dec 1845 :
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9GS-PRQ
Here is the other Bjorn b. Dec 1841, migrated in 1866 married to Betzy:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9GS-VXC
Bernt Ellingson b abt 1845 again the family with Emma, and possibly Bernt/ Bjorn's father Elling Opern:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VT7S-FVM
1885 Iowa state census as Bernt Ellingson b.1846:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:H45T-TN2
Again as Berent Ellingson b abt 1846 with parents and Tollef Asleson in 1880:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDLR-Y4B
Here is a Bjorn Ellingson #59 b. 2 Dec 1844 Krødsherad
Source information: Buskerud county, Krødsherad, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1829-1851), Birth and baptism records 1845, page 53.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1103&idx_id=1103&uid=ny&idx_side=-63
Here is a different possible based on the name Berent/ Bernt in the 1865 Norwegian census:
Bernt Ellingsen Opøian 1847* Ørkedals Prgj. ug Læredreng i Snedkerfaget Christiansund: Øwre Gade 31.12.1865 folketelt Folketelling 1865 for 1503B Kristiansund prestegjeld, Kristiansund kjøpstad
Here is the confirmation record #11 of a Bjorn Ellingson son of Elling Bjornson and Kjersti Torgersdatter birthdate as 15 Sept 1847:
Source information: Buskerud county, Sigdal, Parish register (official) nr. 9A (1860-1871), Confirmation records 1863, page 216.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1131&idx_id=1131&uid=ny&idx_side=-172
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jkmarler
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JaneC
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Posted - 01/04/2016 : 03:12:47
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Nice finds.
FAG creator quotes Bjorn's marriage record as naming his mother "Marie Olsen." link
The Bjorn/ Bernt in Brookfield fits the 1865 census at Opern perfectly - linked to Tollef Aslesen, and to parents Elling and Mary O., and Mary several years older than her husband. link" |
Edited by - JaneC on 01/04/2016 06:10:20 |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 01/04/2016 : 13:09:53
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Elling Bjornsen Orpen m Mari Olsdatter #3:
Source information: Buskerud county, Krødsherad, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1829-1851), Marriage records 1844, page 153.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1103&idx_id=1103&uid=ny&idx_side=-171
Bjorn Ellingson #21 confirmation:
Source information: Buskerud county, Krødsherad, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1851-1872), Confirmation records 1860, page 140.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5882&idx_id=5882&uid=ny&idx_side=-153
#10-12 Elling Bjornson, Mari Olsdatter, Bjorn Ellingson departing for North America
Source information: Buskerud county, Krødsherad, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1851-1872), Migration records 1871, page 318.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5882&idx_id=5882&uid=ny&idx_side=-274
#14 Anne Ellingsdatter Orpen
Source information: Buskerud county, Krødsherad, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1851-1872), Confirmation records 1867, page 166.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5882&idx_id=5882&uid=ny&idx_side=-182
#5 Anne Ellingsdatter Orpen & Hans Asbjornson Sorteberg
Source information: Buskerud county, Krødsherad, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1851-1872), Marriage records 1870-1871, page 214.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5882&idx_id=5882&uid=ny&idx_side=-226
#18 & 19 Anne and Hans moving to ?
Source information: Buskerud county, Krødsherad, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1851-1872), Migration records 1870, page 317.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5882&idx_id=5882&uid=ny&idx_side=-273
Anne's and Hans' destination was Ridgeway, Iowa
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000406336
Here are Anne & Hans & children in Brookfield, Worth county, Iowa in 1880:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDLT-H9S
Here are Hans and Anne and family in 1885 Dakota Territorial census in Benson county:
41-026-25 Asbjornson, Hans 35 Farmer Norway Benson
41-026-26 Asbjornson, Anna 30 Norway Benson
41-026-27 Asbjornson, Osbjorn 12 IA Benson
41-026-28 Asbjornson, Elling H. 8 IA Benson
41-026-29 Asbjornson, Mary 10 IA Benson
41-026-30 Asbjornson, Christie 6 IA Benson
41-026-31 Asbjornson, Kanding 4 IA Benson
Anne and Hans and large family moved to North Dakota 1900:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9VL-9JW
In 1925 North Dakota Ramsey county Hans and Anne still as Asbjornson but two of the boys still living with them are styled as "Benson"
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9C-78KX
Anna, widowed, living with daughter and her family in 1940 in Devils Lake North Dakota:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KM9L-424
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jkmarler
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Posted - 01/04/2016 : 14:17:53
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Here is Mrs. D. Whitman from Northwood, Iowa visiting her aunt and uncle Mr/ Mrs Hans Asbjornson:
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88076516/1913-12-19/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1836&index=0&rows=20&words=Asbjornson+Hans&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1922&proxtext=hans+asbjornson&y=13&x=15&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
Since her address in 1913 was given as Northwood, Iowa, here is a D. C. Whitman in Northwood, Iowa in 1910, a single man living with his parents. Usually D. C. for initials like this means Dewitt Clinton but research might reveal certainty. See below
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MG95-FHW
She as Emma Orpen and Delos as Whitman (sort of) in 1915 North Dakota census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9C-R9B8
From the Worth county page at usgenweb.com, Sunset Rest Cemetery:
"Whiteman, Henry 1838 20 Jul 1920 WPA data Lot 77 - born in Pa.; wife was Sarah Shaw and child was Delos C. Whitman; Ref.: Northwood Anchor, July 21, 1920"
A possible 2nd marriage for Delos Calvin Whitman:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KLWN-SYN
Delos Calvin Whiteman died 1941 buried in same cemetery as Henry Whiteman:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2HXT-4FH
The family database at familysearch.org linked to earilier in topic says that Emma died in 1982 in Aneta, South Dakota. Aneta, North Dakota is where your Emma Thompson's son Delos Whitman lived so this may be Delos' mother Emma from the North Dakota Public Death Index:
THOMPSON, EMMA 08/06/1982 Grand Forks FEMALE 92 Years 10/07/1889 North Dakota Nelson
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AntonH
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Posted - 01/04/2016 : 18:38:19
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There are several Family Trees on Ancestry.com. Not very detailed or sourced but one does include this information and one chld Otto Orpen.
Bjorn Ellingsen Orpen
1844–1918
BIRTH 2 DECEMBER 1844 • Noresund, Buskerud fylke, Norway
DEATH 24 APRIL 1918 • Worth County, Iowa, USA
Anna Aslesdatter Ellingsen Orpen
1865–1948
BIRTH 5 MAY 1865 • Noresund, Buskerud fylke, Norway
DEATH 23 SEPTEMBER 1948 • Worth County, Iowa, USA
Son
Otto Orpen (the birth year given in the tree does not match some records?)
1897–1987
BIRTH 18 MAY 1897 • Worth County, Iowa, USA
DEATH 15 NOV 1987 • Cerro Gordo Co., Iowa
One source found.
Bjorn Ellingsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Bjorn Ellingsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 2 des 1844 (2 Dec 1844)
Baptism Date: 26 des 1844 (26 Dec 1844)
Baptism Place: , Krodsherad, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Elling Bjornsen
Mother: Mari Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 278215
A match for the one Jackie lists above.
And a source for Ann
Name: Anne Aslaksen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 26 mai 1865 (26 May 1865)
Baptism Date: 9 jul 1865
Baptism Place: , Krodsherad, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Asle Olsen
Mother: Margrete Ostensdr
FHL Film Number: 278215
And here, see number 39. The dates are not an exact match to the FAG site or the Family Tree on Ancestry.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5882&idx_id=5882&uid=ny&idx_side=-102 |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/04/2016 21:56:44 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 01/04/2016 : 20:57:52
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Noresund is a village on Lake Krøderen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noresund
Krødsherad I by Andreas Mørch published in 1974 by Krødsherad Kommune has a few details about the family.
Under farm Ørpen, nordre Bruk 15 Haugen also called Kleiverud on pg 594 says Erling (also called Elling in the same text) Bjørnsen Ørpen born at Heslia (another farm) 1810 married in 1844 Mari Olsdatter Olavsbråten and had these children: 1. Astrid [born] 1844, 2 Bjørn [born] 1845, 3. Live [born] 1846, 4. Anne [born] 1853 married 1870 with Hans Asbjørnsen Sorteberg and they had no children born here.
Erling / Elling was the next owner of Haugen after Steinar Evenson Haugen who together with wife and 5 children went to America in 1849. Erling /Elling sold Haugen in 1868, "det er sagt at han og familien reiste til America."
Under Ørpen, nordre on page 583 Elling Bjørnsen Ørpen is mentioned as for some time at Haugen, sold in 1871 to Truls Guttormsen Ørpen.
Under Heslia, on pg 362 Elling is mentioned as the son of Bjørn Asleson from Olberg born 1771 who married Astri Ellingsdatter in 1805. Elling moved to Norderhov (in Ringerike) in 1826 but came back to Krødsherad and married Mari and lived at Haugen, nedre.
Bjørn's and Astri's other children were Asle born 1805, Helge born 1813. Bjørn died in 1813, "så da utgiftene var gått fra, ble det ikke mye å dele her" and Astri moved to Uggeneie in Soknedalen (which is in Ringerike) in 1815
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AntonH
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Posted - 01/04/2016 : 21:36:05
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Probably the marriage of Asle Olsen and Margrethe Ostensdatter.
Asle Olsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Asle Olsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 13 aug 1857
Marriage Place: Krodsherad,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Ole Evensen
Spouse: Margrethe Ostensdr
FHL Film Number: 1282531
Parents are Ole Evensen and Osten Christiansen. See number 2
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5882&idx_id=5882&uid=ny&idx_side=-210 |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/04/2016 21:39:18 |
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 01/04/2016 : 22:52:46
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| page 264 under Haslerud, Asle Olsen from Skinneseie born 1811 married 1857 Margrete Østensdatter Råenshallen born 1823. Asle was a husmand with no land. Asle's and Margrete's children were 1. Gunhild 1858, Margrit 1859, Kari 1861, Anne 1865. Asle died in Treet 1897 and Margrete in 1892. Margrete had a son before her marriage to Asle named Palme Asleson who was born 1847and was in Etne prestegjeld in 1872. |
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