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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 01/04/2016 : 23:36:00
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That is interesting that they got married in August of 1857 shortly after their first daughter was born and ten years after thier son was born.
Palme Aslaksen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Palme Aslaksen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 aug 1847
Baptism Date: 3 okt 1847 (3 Oct 1847)
Baptism Place: , Krodsherad, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Asle Olsen
Mother: Margrete Ostensdr
FHL Film Number: 278215
See also number 52
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1103&idx_id=1103&uid=ny&idx_side=-83 |
Edited by - AntonH on 02/04/2016 02:50:16 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2016 : 00:19:47
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Originally posted by lyndal40
That is interesting that they got married in August of 1857 shortly after their first daughter was born and ten years after thier son was born.
Palme Aslaksen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Palme Aslaksen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 aug 1847
Baptism Date: 3 okt 1847 (3 Oct 1847)
Baptism Place: , Krodsherad, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Asle Olsen
Mother: Margrete Ostensdr
FHL Film Number: 278215
See also number 52
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1103&idx_id=1103&uid=ny&idx_side=-83
What seems a bit weird in the bygdebok is that it's like Margrete got the child on her own or with someone else than Asle.... Lots of transcription errors as his patronymic is clearly Asleson not Aslakson. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/04/2016 : 02:57:56
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Here is a likely candidate for the birth of Margrete Ostensdatter born in 1823 according to the bygdebok used by Jackie.
Magrete Ostensen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Magrete Ostensen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 4 aug 1823
Baptism Date: 21 sep 1823
Baptism Place: , Krodsherad, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Osten Christiansen
Mother: Margit Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 124192
See number 23 right hand page
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8509&idx_id=8509&uid=ny&idx_side=-55 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2016 : 04:37:48
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Here is an old post from genforum.com:
"My father, Delos S. Whitman
By genealogy.com user January 30, 2001 at 03:35:43
I am trying to find information about My father.He was born in Benedict,ND in 1913 to Emma Orpin and Delos Whiteman. His birth sponsors were Ole B. Rendahl who died in 1922 and Ole T. Rendahl. If anyone can give me information this would be of great help.
Thank You"
Ole B Rendahl as is Ole T. Rendahl is buried in the Benedict Concordia Lutheran cemetery:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVVW-8YDL
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wendyserr
New on board
USA
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Posted - 13/05/2016 : 01:44:10
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| I found out that my great gma Emma Orpen was only 12 years old when she had my gpa Delos Whitman. Rumor has it that she got pregnant by E.B. Hillesland whom she was a hired hand for the thrashers as a cook. She was sent away to Benedict, ND to have Delos. She came back to Aneta, ND and this is where Erik B. and Anna Hillesland raised my grandfather. They apparently named my Gpa Delos with a last name of Whiteman. They took off the E and he was later known as Whitman. My GGma Emma wanted to take him with to Duluth,MN but E.B. and Anna said no. He was to stay with them. GGma Emma left without my gpa and then got pregnant again with a guy named Martin Myhre and they had a daughter together named Pearl Cornelia. I see that Pearl passed way in 1983. Whatever happened in the past was taken to the grave with Emma. Uffda as the Norwegians would say. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/05/2016 : 02:48:59
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So Erik Hillesland and Anne Hillesland and Emma Orpen come up with the name "Delos Whiteman" for this child of Emma's who is all of a sudden supposedly fathered by Erik? Isn't that kind of "out of the blue"?
I would have expected both "Delos" and "Whiteman" to be names that would never have occurred to them.
I'm not in the family, but if it were my business to have an opinion, I'd be wary of that story. It's pretty hard to swallow. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/05/2016 : 07:37:43
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Originally posted by wendyserr
I found out that my great gma Emma Orpen was only 12 years old when she had my gpa Delos Whitman. Rumor has it that she got pregnant by E.B. Hillesland whom she was a hired hand for the thrashers as a cook. She was sent away to Benedict, ND to have Delos. She came back to Aneta, ND and this is where Erik B. and Anna Hillesland raised my grandfather. They apparently named my Gpa Delos with a last name of Whiteman. They took off the E and he was later known as Whitman. My GGma Emma wanted to take him with to Duluth,MN but E.B. and Anna said no. He was to stay with them. GGma Emma left without my gpa and then got pregnant again with a guy named Martin Myhre and they had a daughter together named Pearl Cornelia. I see that Pearl passed way in 1983. Whatever happened in the past was taken to the grave with Emma. Uffda as the Norwegians would say.
Family stories often have a kernel of truth in them, and some things in them may or may not be entirely truthful. The story above rates a couple of Pinocchios. Emma was aged 10 in 1900, 18 in 1910 and Pearl was born in 1910. Delos was born second of Emma's two children.
There are a few peculiarities in Emma's life that the story tries to explain and the hardest to understand is why she left her son.
(Her daughter Pearl was also "left behind" with Emma's parents somewhat more understandable considering the relationship.)
Even if Emma took the secret to her grave, there might be some truth in the DNA, |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/05/2016 : 15:03:02
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It's great you're checking out these stories, Wendy. The stories have value, the genealogy research has value.
About the original story we heard, Emma said to leave Delos when he was a baby - the 1920 census shows Emma, age 25, born about 1895, with Delos, age 6. This seems to be a mother who raised her son through early childhood.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC82-FKX
Emma was about 15 when Pearl was born. (You can check their birth dates to be more exact.) The family story says Emma "was 12" when Delos was born. So there is some truth in the story: Emma WAS quite young, when her first child (Pearl) was born.
It's amazing how genealogy clarifies family stories. It helps whisk away fuzzy cobwebs and shakes out the exaggerations and half-truths like a fresh spring cleaning. Learning the facts can give us perspective on the legends - on our families and ourselves.
Pointing out places where a story and actual evidence disagree is a normal part of the process and comes up all the time. I hope the feedback is helpful. We are intending to support your effort to uncover truths.
Written before coffee....uffda! |
Edited by - JaneC on 13/05/2016 15:06:16 |
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