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JustiBlak
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 Posted - 15/10/2012 : 18:18:48
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I am looking for any informations on my gr gr grandfather who was born in Christiania, Oslo, Norway on March 7, 1843. I do not know of any of his family from norway, he imagrated to US around the sometime after his birth but with who and how old is unknown. I have no other family names other than those from US. If anyone can help or send me to the right direction it would be awsome!!!!! |
You Just Cant Have Enough Family in your life.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 15/10/2012 : 18:27:18
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But - if you decided not to give information even such as your gr gr grandfather's name because you really really want to do this all by yourself.... then I can give you links to Norwegian resources, advice and tips.
There are a number of excellent materials available online for your study and the number of Norwegian resources available online for research increases almost daily. Study, practice, enjoy!
Ancestors From Norway articles (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html)
Portal to Norway research guidance of LDS Family History Library (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Norway)
Tips on Using Digitalarkivet (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html)
Norwegian census abbreviations (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/census_abbreviations.html)
Norwegian censuses on NHDC website, instructions included (http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)
FamilySearch has a large number of Norwegian births and marriages indexed (http://www.familysearch.org)
Help for translating many of your finds (http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm)
Making the Norwegian alphabet characters (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/Characters.html)
Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.
(http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm)
(http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm)
Norwegian censuses of 1910, 1900,1875 (only partially online), 1865 and 1801 are online as searchable databases. Two websites with different search functions and strengths can be used.
(http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html)
(http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)
The detail available in the extensive parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. To be able to use the parish records you must first know WHERE in Norway you want to search for this documentation.
The Digitalarkivet web site - (http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar)
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
When you click on that link another page will present a short list of choices - choose "Read the digitized parish registers"[English version]/"Lesa skanna kykrebøker" [Norwegian version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].
Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html)
For the protection of privacy, there are limits for how recent records can be:
- Birth and baptism records up to and including 1929
- Confirmation records up to and including 1934
- Marriage and banns records - no limits
- Civil marriage up to and including 1950
- Death, burial and stillbirth records up to and including 1930
- Migration records - no limits
- Joins and leavings of the State Church up to and including 1950
- Records about dissenters up to and including 1950
If you cross these limits while browsing a register or a list, you will not see the digitised image, but a message informing you that the image cannot be displayed.
Norway has a tradition of publishing history and genealogy books for many rural districts of the country called 'bygdebøker'. You might be lucky enough to have had ancestors from one of the areas which has one or more good 'bygdebøker' published about it.
Learn about 'bygdebøker' (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/bygdebok.html)
Bygdebøker and Ættarbøker can be helpful but are definitely secondary sources of information -- any research done in them should be verified in the primary sources such as the parish church records.
Links and more links about Norway and Norwegian genealogy (http://www.cyndislist.com/norway.htm)
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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JustiBlak
Starting member
USA
13 Posts |
Posted - 15/10/2012 : 19:51:04
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I am so sorry for my post. I totally forgot my grandfathers name... I quess I just thought everyone should know what my grandfathers name is...
The only name we have for him is Louis (Lewis) Johnson.
birth: Mar 7 1843 in Christiaia, Oslo, Norway
Only info from Norway, I have traced lots of web site from US, without have any luck with Norwegian life.
I wil check some of these sites, and if any one has found a direction I should go that is ok with me...
Thanks
Justine |
You Just Cant Have Enough Family in your life.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 19:59:43
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Census-1900 says immigration year = 1875.
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JustiBlak
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 20:05:53
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Yes that is my grandfather,,, But I stil have no Norway info... if he came over in 1875, anything before that year I have no records of... Thanks I look in Family Search but I was spelling his name wrong...
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 20:13:31
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I would guess his name in Norway could be Lars or Lauritz Johnsen.
His marriage record.
This record says immigration year could be 1869...
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Edited by - jwiborg on 15/10/2012 20:44:07 |
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JustiBlak
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 21:45:01
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| Yes this is what I am having trouble in.. understanding how to search in Norwegian. I do not understand the language.. LOL The naming is so confusing... but I think I did see somewhere that very name Lauritz. I will try searching that.. but I do not know how to find the farms that they lived on... Thank you... I will continue to search... I know of no other names of family in Norway... Minnie (gr gr grandma) came from Prussia and he met her over in US ( Michigan) |
You Just Cant Have Enough Family in your life.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 21:50:21
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quote:
Originally posted by JustiBlak
The only name we have for him is Louis (Lewis) Johnson.
birth: Mar 7 1843 in Christiaia, Oslo, Norway
Thanks
Justine
Just a small OBS:
Born 3-7-1843
English method of counting; March 7. 1843
Norwegian method of counting; July 3. 1843
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JustiBlak
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 21:56:51
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If you had to quess? what would the surname be? If it was Johnson here, what would it be there ?
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You Just Cant Have Enough Family in your life.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 21:59:24
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Johnsen, Jonsen, Johannesen.
Traditional Norwegian naming practice.
Lauritz or Lars Johnsen, father was John.
John´s son; Johnsen
Johannes son; Johannesen.
Jon´s son; Jonsen
But some kept the fathers surname.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 15/10/2012 22:06:51 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 22:13:04
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Have you found him in census-1880? Could this be him?
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JustiBlak
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 22:18:01
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1880 in Michigan? Yes I have found him there... I just have no link or names of parents or sibblings... Just wife and children that were all born in MI, or WI
It has been a brick wall for our family for years... as it is like he just changed his name when he came over on the ship, some of the older family have said just as much. So it would be nice to find him in Norway so I could say he was there.. :) |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 22:20:24
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The first thing to do is gather as much US and American information about him that you possibly can. You can't jump across the ocean to Norwegian records until that part of the research is well started.
Even the names of his children can be important clues...
Every piece of US info collected and shared here will become part of the puzzle pieces that allow those of us with experience to start a search in Norway. |
Edited by - Hopkins on 15/10/2012 22:45:44 |
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JustiBlak
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Posted - 15/10/2012 : 22:23:56
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Yes he could of been in WI working then, he did not get married until 1882. I suppose that some of the other Johnson there working could be brothers?
I live near WI, in MI and I have never heard of a town named Breitung, that sounds like a name from Norway? Maybe all of them came from Norway together on the ship. I still have not been able to learn how to look up the passager list on ships... this is all very over whelming for me... again I want to thank everyone..
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