| Author |
 Topic  |
|
alanamitchell
Starting member
USA
6 Posts |
 Posted - 20/12/2012 : 14:31:37
|
I am looking for my husband's family, but don't know where to go from the information that I have. I know his great grandfather was Erling Johaan Tjaaland (b 13 Dec 1896) and he married Elise Kristine Karlsen (b 1892). I know they were both born in Stavanger and married April 25, 1918. I was able to find the immigration records where they came to America with their children (my husband's grandmother and her brother).
From their marriage records, Erling's father was Johan Tjaaland and Elise's father was Zakarias Karlsen.
I also know that he had something to do with fish packaging and opened several factories there to do that.
Can anyone help me go any farther back from this? Thank you! |
|
|
alanamitchell
Starting member
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 14:34:21
|
I should say Erling was the one who opened the factories. That is my understanding anyway.
I was told about a museum in Stavanger that houses a lot of their family heritage, but I don't know any more about that. |
 |
|
|
eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 14:38:03
|
Erling, his parents and grandmother in 1900 census.
His father had a rubber factory and a canning factory.
They were living in this house in 1900.
Erlings baptismal record is #4 - father tinsmithmaster Johan Arnt Tjaaland and mother Margrete Kristiane Egenæs. (After norwegian naming practice he would have been Erling Johansen, Tjaaland)
Erlings parents were married Dec 16 1894, see record #59.
The baptismal record for Johan Arnt Tjaaland is #27. His parents were Ole Jespersen and Gurina Kristiansdatter, Tjaaland.
His parents, grandparents and siblings in 1865.
The baptismal record for Margrete Kristiane Egenæs is #31 - she was actually baptized Kristiane Margrete. Her parents were sea captain Eilert Christian Egenæs and Helene Elisabeth Block.
Widower Eilert (Christian) Andersen, Egenæs and Helene Elisabeth Block were married Oct 1 1871, see #47.
Eilert Christian Andersens father was Anders Andersen, Egenæs. Helene Elisabeth Block was born in East Prussia and her father was cooper Jacob Block.
|
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 21/12/2012 07:20:08 |
|
|
|
eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 14:43:55
|
Elisa (=Elise), her parents and siblings in 1900 census.
Her father was a fish salesman.
The family was living here in 1900.
Elise Kristine was born Sept 21 1892, see baptismal record #86.
Her parents fisherman Zakarias Karlsen (b 1854) and Kristine Pedersen (b 1856).
|
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 20/12/2012 16:56:42 |
|
|
|
eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2012 : 15:16:58
|
The marriage record for Erling Tjaaland and Elise Kristine Karlsen is #40.
Erlings father is here called Factory owner.
|
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 20/12/2012 23:08:02 |
|
|
|
alanamitchell
Starting member
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 21/12/2012 : 04:52:46
|
So much great information! Thank you!
Could you explain Norwegian naming practices? |
|
|
|
eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 21/12/2012 : 07:13:46
|
Norwegian naming practiced, see #2.
|
Einar |
|
|
|
eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 21/12/2012 : 08:09:33
|
quote:
I also know that he had something to do with fish packaging and opened several factories there to do that.
- from the info in church records and censuses I understand that it was Erlings father Johan Arnt Tjaaland who "had something to do with fish packaging".
This is my understanding from what I have seen in writing:
He was a tinsmith, worked in a factory soldering the lids on cans for smoked sardins, was in Germany running a canning factory, later he became the owner of a canning factory in Norway, he participated in a meeting with the prime minister to discuss export of canned fish in 1918.
Erling was an office manager when he emigrated in 1920, hoping for improved income in US, see here.
Could this be his wife and three children who followed in 1923?
|
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 23/12/2012 13:06:05 |
|
|
|
eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 21/12/2012 : 15:24:03
|
Zacharias Karlsen and Elise Kristine Pedersdatter were married July 30 1875, see record #67.
Zacharias was born Aug 16 1853, see record #69, his parents were Karl M Tobiassen and Lina K Samuelsdatter, Stokke
Carl Michal Tobiassen and Lina Christ Samuelsdatter were married Jan 4 1850, see record #1.
Lene Kirstine Samuelsdatter was born May 24 1827, see record #52. Her parents were Samuel Salvesen and Karen Helene Bentsdatter, Rødland.
|
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 21/12/2012 20:47:30 |
|
|
|
alanamitchell
Starting member
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2012 : 04:06:54
|
quote:
Originally posted by eibache
quote:
I also know that he had something to do with fish packaging and opened several factories there to do that.
- from the info in church records and censuses I understand that it was Erlings father Johan Arnt Tjaaland who "had something to do with fish packaging".
This is my understanding from what I have seen in writing:
He was a tinsmith, worked in a factory soldering the lids on cans for smoked sardins, was in Germany running a canning factory, later he became the owner of a canning factory in Norway, he participated in a meeting with the prime minister to discuss export of canned fish in 1918.
Erling was an office manager when he emigrated in 1920, hoping for improved income in US, see here.
Could this be his wife and three children who followed in 1923?
Ah, yes, I remember now that it was Johan, not Erling who owned the factories.
Also, I do not believe that is Erling's family. Is it possible that he returned to Norway and then back to the US with his family? I know his children weren't born until after 1920. His wife and children didn't come to the US until 1929. |
|
|
|
eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2012 : 08:04:32
|
| The name of the children would be fine. |
Einar |
|
|
|
alanamitchell
Starting member
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2012 : 16:33:01
|
| Johan and Elsa Christine are his children. Elsa was born in 1923. I do not know when Johan was born, but I know he was older than Elsa. |
|
|
|
jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
|
|
eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2012 : 13:09:36
|
Erlings wife, Elise, and her two children Johan and Else Kristine, left Stavanger in 1929.
|
Einar |
|
|
|
eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2012 : 14:36:03
|
The baptismal record for Else Kristine is #100.
The baptismal record for Johan is #68.
Erling was then the owner of a canning factory.
The family were living in Hafrsfjordgaten 7 when the children was born.
Since Erling had left for US in 1920, he must have returned to father Else Kristine.
He left the 2nd time in 1927.
|
Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 23/12/2012 14:37:59 |
|
|
|
alanamitchell
Starting member
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2012 : 16:38:10
|
| I read the Norwegian naming practices and have a better understanding. However, could you explain the changes of the spellings? Above, Karl became Carl, Krist became Christ and Lina became Lena. |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
Erling Tjaaland
