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sanvald
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 Posted - 24/01/2013 : 16:26:14
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| I am new to this forum and am trying to find records of my g-grandfather coming to NY as a merchant marine, at least that is the story. He was the son of Georg Lund and Henrikke Margarethe Fischer. Born in Bergen on 10-10-1866. Henrikke was born in Nykirken 3-5-1834. Her fathers name was Didrick Nils Fischer. Georg Lund his father was born on 12-8-1832. I have a lot of information of the family going back to Norway, but cant seem to find when he arrived in the US. I found somewhere where he was a chandler in the US census records , and the story was he came over as a merchant marine. Any help would be appreciated. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 16:44:54
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If this is the correct Didrik Lund, it has him listed as immigrating in 1887.
1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Drdrik Lund
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1867
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Home in 1930: Queens, Queens, New York
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1887
Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law
Spouse's Name: Gerda Lund
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway |
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 16:52:28
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Same year shown in 1900 Census. However the 1920 Census shows the year as 1889
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Dederick Lund
Age: 32
Birth Date: Oct 1867
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 22, Kings, New York
[Kings]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1887
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Gertrude Lund
Marriage Year: 1890
Years Married: 10
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Dederick Lund 32
Gertrude Lund 27
George F Lund 8 |
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sanvald
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 17:55:27
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Thanks for the quick reply. So far that is the same info I have. the gap I am trying to find out about is how he came to immigrate to the US. Ive seen movies where they were recruited to join the military in order to receive citizenship. So I am curious to find out if he came over as a shiphand on a ship and then became a citizen or did he come over as steerage, and which ship and port did he sail out of. I would like to know how my family came to come to the US. I have looked in the Ellis Island records and no luck. I am also interested in Henrikke Fischer as the name doesnt seem to be Norwegian. Also the family rumor about Didrik was that he was a decendant (I know we are all royalty  ) of the Llapso(not sure of spelling) and there was some controversy behind his family. |
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jkmarler
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eibache
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 18:19:55
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The baptismal record for Didrick Nils Lund is #151.
Georg Lund and Henrikke Margarethe Fischer were married Dec 4 1861, see #74.
Georg Lunds parents Jens Gabriel Fredrik Lund and Maren Elisabeth Lorentzen were married Aug 7 1829, see #18.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 18:31:35
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The family in Bergen 1875 link
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sanvald
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 18:51:44
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| Thanks all for all your information. In one of the links it says his occupation was Skibshandler. What does that mean.? Does Castle Garden have a website for passenger lists? im just trying to fill in that gap of how he immigrated, whether as an employee of a shipping line and if i can find it on a website to see any documents stating that. since he came to the US twice according to the archives he was still a norwegian citizen. when and why did he become American. Thats where I am stumped. Also if Lund is a common name and if there are any relatives left in Norway. I am trying to plan a trip to the Archives in March/April and would like to find the link between the old and the new country. thanks again everyone this is awesome information. |
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sanvald
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 18:54:22
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Thanks. Based on this archive can you tell me where in Bergen they lived?
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The family in Bergen 1875 link
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Kċarto
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 19:00:24
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No streetname given or where in Bergen they lived, in 3. floor. Adress 4-61.
Georg Lunds occ. Overstuver - Chief steward.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 19:06:34
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In 1885 the family lived in Strandgaten (Beach street) 130, 2. floor, Rode 4-61, link
Most likely same area or adress as in 1875.
Didrik was employed as clerk at merchanrt H. Rogge.
Georg Lunds occ; "Losoldermann" Responsible for the Pilots in the district.
Strandgaten
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sanvald
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 19:44:59
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Thanks. What would the occupation of a Pilot be in 1885 in relation to a current occupation? And Didrik as a merchant; would that be a store keeper and is H. Rogge. the name of the store or the town?
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Originally posted by Kċarto
In 1885 the family lived in Strandgaten (Beach street) 130, 2. floor, Rode 4-61, link
Most likely same area or adress as in 1875.
Didrik was employed as clerk at merchanrt H. Rogge.
Georg Lunds oc; "Losoldermann" Responsible for the Pilots in the district.
Strandgaten
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Kċarto
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 20:13:23
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A maritime pilot, link
He was head of the pilots in the Bergen district.
H. (Hans) Rogge was a mercahant and Didrik was employed by him as clerk (accounting, orders etc)
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sanvald
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 20:20:34
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Wow!! very exciting. That must be why I saw chandler in the US census records.So that is how they probably had the connections to go to America. Is there an archive in Bergen that would have the documentation of this. i would love to add that to my research.
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A maritime pilot, link
He was head of the pilots in the Bergen district.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 24/01/2013 : 20:38:47
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The archive in Bergen, one of eight archives in Norway, has the documents from ca 1730 on "Losoldermenn" today called Overlos (head of the pilots) but the info is to my knowledge not online yet.
Bergen has 15 000 shelf meter of documents.
Volunteers from history societies and employees from the archives are working with all kind of documents to get it online, but there are millions of pages so it will take its time.
I believe the probate register is a priority.
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jkmarler
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Didrik Nils Lund
