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sanvald
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 Posted - 25/01/2013 : 16:45:52
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Thank you. that makes sense.
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Lodsolderman - devide in two words
lods - seagoing pilot
and olderman - a retired chieftain, or otherwise important member of the tribe that had retired due to old age. It has the advantage of retaining the knowledge of the old leader within a field, without challenging the new leader.
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eibache
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Posted - 25/01/2013 : 16:58:33
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Henrike Margrethe Fischer was born March 5 1834, see #27. Her parents were shipscaptain Diderik Niels Fischer and Frederike Elisabeth Schram.
Diderik Niels Fischer and Frederike Elisabeth Schram were married May 20 1829, see #26.
Fredrike Elisabeth Schrams parents were shoemaker Andreas Schram and Methe Michaelsen. See 1801.
Diderik Niels Fischers parents were shipscaptain Niels Fischer and Anne Johanne von Der Ohe. See 1801.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/01/2013 : 17:02:07
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do you know which parish I should look at?
- Didrik was bap. in Domkirken parish
- His parents married in Domkirken
- Georg Lunds parents Jens G.F Lund and Maren Elisabeth Lorentzen married in Domkirken.
I would start there.
Usually genealogy takes time 
Domkirken (Bergen Cathedral)
A photo from inside of the Bergen Cathedral, see here
A curiosity.
A canonball remains in the Cathedrals wall after the 1644 seabattle between the English and Dutch fleet, link
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sanvald
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Posted - 25/01/2013 : 17:50:27
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i am noticing the name Fischer many times between the families. Were they related ? Georg father is J.G.Fischer Lund and Henrikke father is Didrik N. Fischer too. Do you have dates of births for any of the parents? And was it common to marry in this church? Was it the only church?
How exciting you were able to go back even further. I am sure it helps you can read the language.
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Originally posted by eibache
Henrike Margrethe Fischer was born March 5 1834, see #27. Her parents were shipscaptain Diderik Niels Fischer and Frederike Elisabeth Schram.
Diderik Niels Fischer and Frederike Elisabeth Schram were married May 20 1829, see #26.
Fredrike Elisabeth Schrams parents were shoemaker Andreas Schram and Methe Michaelsen. See 1801.
Diderik Niels Fischers parents were shipscaptain Niels Fischer and Anne Johanne von Der Ohe. See 1801.
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sanvald
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Posted - 25/01/2013 : 17:57:50
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i never thought there were records this far back for my family.
I know this sounds silly but I mentioned in an earlier post that there was a story passed down to my grandmother by Didrik that his family was nobility, and that they were not allowed to talk about it. Was there actual Norwegian nobility, as I thought Sweden was in control of Norway during the 1800's. Can anyone explain. |
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sanvald
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Posted - 25/01/2013 : 18:00:03
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I have been working on this for years. Every once in a while I take a break because it is so overwhelming and reading and trying to translate makes me crazy. Thanks for all you help. It has been a passion of mine to do this, so good things take time.
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Originally posted by Kåarto
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Originally posted by sanvald
do you know which parish I should look at?
- Didrik was bap. in Domkirken parish
- His parents married in Domkirken
- Georg Lunds parents Jens G.F Lund and Maren Elisabeth Lorentzen married in Domkirken.
I would start there.
Usually genealogy takes time
Domkirken (Bergen Cathedral)
A photo from inside of the Bergen Cathedral, see here
A curiosity.
A canonball remains in the Cathedrals wall after the 1644 seabattle between the English and Dutch fleet, link
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/01/2013 : 23:52:57
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Take your time, you are welcome back if you have any questions.
It´s always difficult to understand a new language even if it is your ancestor´s language.
Every time you read through the information you will understand it better
I guess without having studied it that familynames like Fischer, Schram and perhaps Lorentzen goes fare back.
I suppose that the forefathers to this families in Norway probably immigrated in the 1600 or 1700s from Germany or Denmark.
I made a mistake: Georg Lunds parents Jens Gabriel Fredrik Lund and Maren Elisabeth Lorentsen did not marry in Bergen Cathedral 1829 but in Stavanger Cathedral
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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/01/2013 17:06:38 |
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jkmarler
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eibache
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Posted - 26/01/2013 : 14:45:16
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Jens Gabriel Friderich Lund was born March 2 1803 at Svinøen in Vest-Agder, see 5th left page. His parents were Mons. Jørgen Lund and Sussana Macoddi.
The parents and his siblings in 1801.
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sanvald
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Posted - 26/01/2013 : 14:55:37
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Wow. What is Mons. short for?
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Originally posted by eibache
Jens Gabriel Friderich Lund was born March 2 1803 at Svinøer in Vest-Agder, see 5th left page. His parents were Mons. Jørgen Lund and Sussana Lund.
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eibache
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Posted - 26/01/2013 : 15:13:21
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Mon. - short for "Monsieur" = "Mister" among upper class people.
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sanvald
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Posted - 26/01/2013 : 18:53:25
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looking at the list of relatives I noticed Anna has another name of Brink. Is that considered a middle name? Also I am assuming this is the census for 1801. How do you know who was living in the household? I assume that it ends with Maria Macoddi. And that name Macoddi, do you know where that name originates from? It doesnt sound Norwegian.
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Originally posted by eibache
Jens Gabriel Friderich Lund was born March 2 1803 at Svinøer in Vest-Agder, see 5th left page. His parents were Mons. Jørgen Lund and Sussana Macoddi.
The parents and his siblings in 1801.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 26/01/2013 : 21:11:44
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If this is true she was from the island Guernsey in the British channel, see here
#4338219 Maria Macoddi, age 23, unmarried, in the same 1801 census is her sister.
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eibache
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Posted - 26/01/2013 : 21:38:29
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"1801" is the 1801 census.
All the people listed as children of Jørgen Gabrielsen Lund and his wife Sussanna Macoddi are part of the houshold, i.e.:
438211 - 438217, in addition 438218 - 438221 are part of the houshould as relatives and servants.
The baptismal record for Ane Susanna seems to indicate that Brinch is added to her given name. See last record on left page.
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sanvald
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Posted - 26/01/2013 : 22:37:50
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Yes. I just found this too. And on this website there is even more family, distant cousins and such. How interesting. I wonder how she got from Gurnsey to Norway and why. Thanks again!!
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Originally posted by Kåarto
If this is true she was from the island Guernsey in the British channel, see here
#4338219 Maria Macoddi, age 23, unmarried, in the same 1801 census is her sister.
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