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BobbiOlson
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Posted - 30/01/2013 :  02:24:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am looking for information on the family of Harry Olsen Skjelbreia born 18 Sep 1865 in Gran, Hadeland, Norway. Harry came to the United States about 1886. Harry's parents are: father Kristen Olsen Skjelbreia born 27 Apr 1818 in Gran and died about 1866 and mother Anne Hansdatter Koperud born 4 Sep 1826 in Lunner, Oppland, Norway and died 26 Jan 1897. Harry's siblings are Anne, Christine, & Lars. Also I have Harry's grandfather as Ole Skjelbreia born in Nannestad. I believe the grandfather came to the United States and settled in Minnesota but haven't been able to verify this. I am hoping to verify any of this information. Thank you.
Bobbi

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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/01/2013 :  04:31:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the folks on Skjelbreia in 1865 Norwegian census:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=16&filnamn=f60534&gardpostnr=198&merk=198#ovre

The eldest 2 children in the household are from Christen's first marriage. Harry is Hans.

Here is Hans' (Harry's) birth /baptism record #211:
Source information: Oppland county, Gran, Parish register (official) nr. 12 (1856-1874), Birth and baptism records 1865, page 310-311.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8969&idx_id=8969&uid=ny&idx_side=-164

Edited by - jkmarler on 30/01/2013 05:25:48
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eibache
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Posted - 30/01/2013 :  07:57:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The parents of Harry Olsen (= Hans Christensen) were married June 9 1857, see record #25. The father was a widower 39 years old. (Christen Olsen married his first wife Anne Andersdatter Dec 23 1841.)
Harry's mother Anna Hansdatter was from Jevnager and was 31 years old.

The baptismal record for Christen is #41. His parents were Ole Carstensen and Marthe Andersdatter, Hvalbye-ejet.

The baptismal record for Anna Hansdatter is #36. She was born April 5 1826 and and baptized in Lunner church. Her parents were Hans Gudmundsen and Kari Olsdatter, Koperud.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 30/01/2013 08:14:38
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eibache
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Posted - 30/01/2013 :  08:43:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Carstensen, Hvaleby-ejet and Marthe Andersdatter, Stomne were married Jan 5 1817, see record #15. Ole was 25 years old and Marthe was 28 years old.
They had the following children:
Christen b. April 27 1818,
Gudbjør b. Oct 9 1820,
Anders b. Aug 20 1822,
Berthe b. Febr 20 1824,
Rangdi b. Jan 25 1826,
Anne b. May 7 1828,
Marthe b. Jan 26 1830.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 31/01/2013 10:06:20
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eibache
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Posted - 30/01/2013 :  09:02:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans Gudmundsen, Koperud and Kari Olsdatter were married Jan 26 1823, see record #8.
They had the following children:
Gudmund b. Oct 4 1823,
Anne b. April 5 1826,
Hans b. Aug 7 1830.

Einar
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BobbiOlson
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Posted - 30/01/2013 :  11:55:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just can't thank you enough for this information. This line has been a brick wall for many years and with your help, I'm able to add great information to our family history. Thank you again
Bobbi

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BobbiOlson
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Posted - 30/01/2013 :  23:10:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is an old topic from 25/01/2009 that has a reply about Ole Carstensen in it and it references his second wife Pernille Eriksdatter. I was wondering if it is the same Ole Carstensen listed in this topic that was married to Marthe Andersdatter married Jan 5, 1817 per above post. If they are the same I can use the information provided on the older post. Thank you.

Bobbi
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 31/01/2013 :  08:21:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Carstensen's first wife Marthe Andersdatter died Nov 12 1832, see 6th record.

You can trust that your Ole Carstensen is the widower who married Pernille Eriksdatter.
Ole Carstensen was baptized Febr 26 1792 and his parents were Carsten Larsen and Rangdi Olsdatter on Undelieeiet.
In 1801 Ole was 9 years old, his father however is wrongly recorded as Tosten Larsen 54 years old.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 31/01/2013 08:28:35
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eibache
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Posted - 31/01/2013 :  09:23:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carsten Larsen, Undelie-eiet and Rangdi Olsdatter, Gamekind-eiet were married April 1 1777, see 2nd record on right page.


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eibache
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Posted - 31/01/2013 :  10:09:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marte Andersdatter, Stomne, her parents and siblings in 1801.

Marthe was baptized March 24 1788, see right page.

Her parents Anders Andersen, Stomne and Gubiør Pedersdatter, Baae were married Febr 8 1781, see 2nd record on left page.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 31/01/2013 10:24:24
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BobbiOlson
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Posted - 31/01/2013 :  14:51:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once again - I can't thank you enough Einar. The information on this site has filled in many blanks.
Bobbi

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BobbiOlson
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Posted - 31/01/2013 :  23:11:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it possible to also get the birth records for Hans Gudmundsen and Kari Olsdatter who were married 26 June 1823 per above post? Thank you.

Bobbi
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Hopkins
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Posted - 31/01/2013 :  23:49:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course it is possible. Have you worked out about what year each was born from the data already given? Then check in the parish church books of Gran (or possibly neighboring Jevnaker) for the births.

The detail available in the extensive parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. To be able to use the parish records you must first know WHERE in Norway you want to search for this documentation.

The Digitalarkivet web site - (http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar)
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
When you click on that link another page will present a short list of choices - choose "Read the digitized parish registers"[English version]/"Lesa skanna kykrebøker" [Norwegian version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html)
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BobbiOlson
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Posted - 31/01/2013 :  23:56:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks so much - I will give it a try and see if I can get this figured out.
Bobbi

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BobbiOlson
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Posted - 13/05/2013 :  00:19:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been trying to translate some of the census records using google translate with some success. I was wondering if I could get some help with Arbeider ved Sagbrug Husmand % til Mathissen %. I know it's listed under occupation. Also does anyone know the unit of measure used in the last few columns. For example: Far 6 Poteter 2 Bygg 3/4. I'm assuming that the total farm is 6 acres or whatever unit it is with 2 in potatoes and 3/4 in buildings. Am I close?
Thank you

Bobbi
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Hopkins
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Posted - 13/05/2013 :  04:05:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Google translate is most helpful with MODERN language.

Use this website which has lists of words commonly found in our genealogy research.
http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm
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