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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 02/03/2013 : 17:25:25
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Altona is the name of a small holding under Skjefstad Vestre in todays Lena, Oppland. The district is named Toten.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 02/03/2013 : 17:36:18
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| Darlene, another thing you might consider is that LaCrosse is next to--that is just over the river to-- Houston County, Minnesota, practically Norwegian central. |
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Dougj
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 14/03/2013 : 05:22:30
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I'm hoping its okay to add in on this conversation. I just very recently joined. I was researching my great great grandfather Jens hansen/Peder Jensen/Carl Johnson. I do not know about John but I know that Jens and Hellene and Peder lived in Nicollet county mn and both Jens and Peder and I believe Hellene died there as there is no record of her death. My grandfather moved to Canada and I live here on his farm.
I believe his parents was Jens Hansen & Helene Johannesdatter, and that he already had 3 siblings in America at the time of his emigration in 1869/1870.
Emigration to America:
1857: Anne Mathea Jensdatter Skjefstadeie, b. 24 Apr 1833, daughter of Jens Hansen & Helene Johannesdatter. Two siblings emigrated later.
1861: Johanne Jensdatter Skjefstadeie, b. 28 Dec 1839, conf. 1855, daughter of Jens Hansen og Helene Johansdatter. Her sister Anne Mathea was already in America. Brother Peder emigrated later. Jens died in 1888 at age 86 Not sure if any of this information is of any help. Peder buried in Norseland cemetery and died in 1916(I believe that the year without checking)
Doug J
1865: Peder Jensen Schjefstad, b. 18 May 1836, son of Jens Hansen og Hellene Johannesdatter Skjefstadeie. Peder had two siblings already in America, se 1857/23 and 1861/63. Bachelor Peder Jensen Schefstad 28 yo.
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Dougj
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 14/03/2013 : 06:23:55
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I am a great grandson of Peder Jensen (Peter Johnson) he farmed in Lake prairie, nicollet co for years and is buried in the norseland church cemetery. My grandfather emmigrated to Canada in 1915 Carl Johnson and died there only 6 1/2 later. His sister lived next to us and was here first. Joanne (Jensen) married Sven Lundholm and is buried in the reserection cemetery in St. Peter mn. Jens Jensen was buried out of Norseland church but I could not find any record of his grave. Stated he buried in St. Peter but even the historical society couldn't find it, and no record at all of hellene Johannesdatter. They were quite old when they came to america. Jens lived with his son Peter just before he died i 1888 at age 86. The US gov't at some point told the Norweigans that in America they could not keep switching there names. From then on Jensens became Johnsons. Not sue how much this helps but some more info to help your search I hope.
Doug Johnson
Earlier I was given information that 3 of Johan Jensen's half siblings had emigrated to America before him. I think I have found Peder (Petter Jensen, age 28) passage on the bark Balder, emigrating in 1865 but have yet to find him in America; but have found neither sister: 1861 - Johanne Jesdatter Skjefstadeie, b. 28 Dec. 1839
or 1857 - Anne Mathea Jesndatter Skjefstadeie, born 24 April 1833
I really am trying to find out - had either sister had married a Hansen or Hanson? and where can I find their passage information?
because there is a young boy, Eddie Hanson, age 4, buried in Johan Jensen's burial plot in La Crosse Wisconsin, and the cemetery has no other information on him, other than that his burial was on June 28, 1886 and he had diptheria.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 14/03/2013 : 07:10:59
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Here is Johanna Lundholm in the 1900 census, birth date Dec 1838, migration in 1863:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M933-JF9
Her marriage to Sven Lundholm was in 1863, so migration year in 1900 census a little bit suspect:
Sven Lundholm & Johanne Jansen marriage
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDD1-7HW
By the by, Norseland Lutheran has recently published an anniversary book. It contains an abstract of all pastoral acts, including funerals.
Here is her death record info from familysearch.org:
Name: Johanna Lundholm
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 02 Apr 1921
Burial Place: St. Peter, Mn
Death Date: 29 Mar 1921
Death Place: St. Peter, Nicollet, Minnesota
Age: 81
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1839
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Hans Johnson
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02132-0
System Origin: Minnesota-EASy
GS Film number: 2218059
Reference ID: 8268
Citing this Record
"Minnesota, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1990," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FD3Z-26V : accessed 14 Mar 2013), Johanna Lundholm, 29 Mar 1921.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 14/03/2013 : 09:12:39
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(the index give Hans but the actual handwritten image has Jans)
- I read Jens.
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DAJohnson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 14/03/2013 : 15:25:29
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Thanks so much...I think you have found my ancestor's siblings.
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DAJohnson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 15/03/2013 : 02:45:51
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| I have found the reason, I think, that there is the burial of an Eddie Hanson in John Johnson's burial plot. His plot is adjacent to that purchased by a Martin Hanson, and they could have buried the child in the wrong location or "on the line" between the 2 plots. |
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DAJohnson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 15/03/2013 : 15:15:53
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Doug, If you woudl so chose to answer...Would you please tell me, as I am confused, you say - My grandfather emmigrated to Canada in 1915 Carl Johnson and died there only 6 1/2 later. His sister lived next to us and was here first. Who was Carl Johnson (Was he the "Charles" age 12 years, in the 1885 Minnesota Census? and was he your grandfather? And what sister are you speaking of - Annie? Jennie? Ellen? that had already moved to Canada...where in Canada?) Quote from your information above: "My grandfather emmigrated to Canada in 1915 Carl Johnson and died there only 6 1/2 later. His sister lived next to us and was here first."
Am curious and confused with who was whom...
I can't find the burial of Jens Hanson either, but did find Johanne Lundholm and Peter Johnson's graves.Thank you!
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 15/03/2013 : 15:37:40
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| Jens Hanson's grave may be unmarked. His funeral was the last of 5 held in 1888 in the Norseland Lutheran church. |
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Dougj
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 15/03/2013 : 17:10:15
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Yes, You can ask me anything and I will try my best to answer as ancestry is alot of history unknown as the people to ask are always along gone. I did confuse you sorr. Peder Jensen (Peter Johnson as he went by evetually in mn. Is my great grandfather. He is Jens hansen's son as you previously saw from vester otten herad oppland Norway. He married Ellen Olson.(They first settle in Lacross as well) They had 6 children. One being my grandfather anna Josephine, Carl(charles), John,Jenny, Ella, phillip. Not sure order. Anna married a Karstad and he moved to Saskatchewan Canada. My grandfather Carl followed in 1915. So my gradfather is Peter Johnson's (jensen) son. Peter is part of the heritage you are searching as one of John's siblings. Carl is another generation down. Peter's son John was the sheriff of Nicollet co for years.
Hope this unconfuses a bit. Not sure if you can add a picture but if you can and someone can tell me I would put his picture on here. Peter that is.(peder Jensen so not to confuse)
Doug
Doug, If you woudl so chose to answer...Would you please tell me, as I am confused, you say - My grandfather emmigrated to Canada in 1915 Carl Johnson and died there only 6 1/2 later. His sister lived next to us and was here first. Who was Carl Johnson (Was he the "Charles" age 12 years, in the 1885 Minnesota Census? and was he your grandfather? And what sister are you speaking of - Annie? Jennie? Ellen? that had already moved to Canada...where in Canada?) Quote from your information above: "My grandfather emmigrated to Canada in 1915 Carl Johnson and died there only 6 1/2 later. His sister lived next to us and was here first."
Am curious and confused with who was whom...
I can't find the burial of Jens Hanson either, but did find Johanne Lundholm and Peter Johnson's graves.Thank you!
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Dougj
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 15/03/2013 : 17:13:16
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| Sorry for all the typos. I should maybe have left John out of this as not to confuse you. John Johnson is Peder Jensen's son as well. Norweigans are mindboggling to do gaeneology on |
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DAJohnson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 19/03/2013 : 04:05:38
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Doug Johnson,
I would like very much to receive a picture of Peder Johnson or other members of the family. I have a studio photo taken of John Johnson, his wife Helena, and their two sons, Andrew and Anton Alfsted Johson and then a quite funny snapshot of them when John & Helena (who appears to have no teeth) are quite old and then another one of them in front of their home in La Crosse... I would be happy to share. So... can Borge or someone explain how to put a picture on line if that is allowed.??? There was that picture of the King of Sweden & Norway earlier so one has to be able to do it. Or if not, how can we exchange email addresses between Doug and me if he is willing without broadcasting it over the website?
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Dougj
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 19/03/2013 : 15:47:23
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Why don't you contact me at this address. dougj2225@gmail.com It is a gmail I use for this kind of thing and if there is a problem down the road I can delete it because it doesn't pertain to my personal mail. Would sooner do that than publicly post pictures and we can correspond more that way.
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John Johnson (Helfstad?) & Family
