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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 16/02/2013 : 02:41:51
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Immigration is when you arrive in a new country. Immigration year was one of the questions in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 US censuses. Check those censuses for what info was given. If you have ancestry.com that should be fairly easy.
Emigration is when you leave the old country. Norway could only have emigration records of people leaving. Norway had a good number of different ports for persons to leave from. Where a person lived before they emigrated might let you better guess which port they left from. |
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Diane Wheeler
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Posted - 16/02/2013 : 03:08:06
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 16/02/2013 : 10:49:07
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Here is Oluf and Gunbjor in the 1900 census. Gunbjor is listed as born June 1865 and came to US in 1882:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M938-ZDQ
head Oluf Gunderson M 32 Wisconsin
wife Gunbjor Gunderson F 35 Norway
daughter Marie Gunderson F 8 Minnesota
daughter Anna Gunderson F 7 Minnesota
daughter Josephine Gunderson F 6 Minnesota
daughter Inga Gunderson F 4 Minnesota
daughter Olivia Gunderson F 2 Minnesota
This obituary index notice was found in the database at pchs.org (Pennington County Historical Society). Don't know if its your gal or not but was published in their covered area. Gazette is the name of the newspaper--don't know where it was published, it is the Red Lake Falls Gazette, the date is the publication date of the paper, not necessarily when this person died:
Gunderson Olaf Mrs. 27-Mar-1902 Gazette
Here is the family in the 1895 Minnesota State census. Her name is given as Gunvor. Red Lake county was created out of Polk County in 1896:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MQ6J-XLF
Here is Olaf and Gun--- marriage in MOMS, her name is given as Julia Olson:
POLK E/48 8/12/1891 GUNDERSON, OLEF OLSON, JULIA
Possibly Julia Olson age 20 living in Crookston, Polk County, Minnesota in 1885:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MQX2-SZM |
Edited by - jkmarler on 16/02/2013 14:46:27 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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hasto
Senior member
Norway
294 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2013 : 12:24:23
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Those two Gunbjørgs are married in Norway in 1900 census:
Gunbjørg Asbjørnsdatter - Gunbjørg Aslaksdatter
Also in Norway 1900: Gunvor Salvesdatter (Kile), born 1862 (she never had the names Julie or Drangsholt)
Alternative spellings: Gunbjørg/Gunbjør/Gundbjørg/Gunnbjørg/Gumbjør
Which source brings in the surname Drangsholt? |
Harald S Storaker
4586 Korshamn, Norge |
Edited by - hasto on 16/02/2013 12:58:53 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 16/02/2013 : 13:27:33
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Broadening search based on her name being Gunbjor b 1865 in the 1900 US census, now in the 1865 census:
New Search 1865 more spellings of Gunbjor:
first name starting with gun but selecting: gunbjør, gunbjørg, gunbor, gunborg, gunbør, gunbørg, gundbjør, gundbjørg, gundbor, gundborg, gunvorg
fodeaar: 1863, 1864, 1865
Gundbjør Nielsdatter b. abt 1863 Hosanger on Drangevaads plads”
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=14&filnamn=f61253&gardpostnr=204&personpostnr=1273&merk=1273#ovre
Gundbjørg Knutsdatter b. abt 1864 Hosanger
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=14&filnamn=f61253&gardpostnr=415&personpostnr=2861&merk=2861#ovre
Gunbjør Larsdatter b. abt 1864 Haus:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=18&filnamn=f61250&gardpostnr=822&personpostnr=5253&merk=5253#ovre
Gundbjør Olsdatter b. abt 1863 Nissedal :
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=25&filnamn=f60830&gardpostnr=228&personpostnr=1302&merk=1302#ovre
Gundborg Ivers.( father is Hans Iverson) b. abt 1865 Drammen:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=31&filnamn=f60602&gardpostnr=1060&personpostnr=12521&merk=12521#ovre
Gundborg Marie Lars. (father is Jørgen Larsen) b. abt 1865 Arendal
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=34&filnamn=f60903&gardpostnr=49&personpostnr=472&merk=472#ovre
Gunbor Thoresdatter b. abt 1863 Gjerestad:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=37&filnamn=f60911&gardpostnr=279&personpostnr=1671&merk=1671#ovre
Gunborg Salvesdatter b. about 1864 Holts:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=40&filnamn=f60914&gardpostnr=586&personpostnr=3536&merk=3536#ovre
Gunborg Gulliksdatter b. about 1864 Forstaden(Fredrikstad?):
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=43&filnamn=f60103&gardpostnr=253&personpostnr=3587&merk=3587#ovre
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hasto
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jkmarler
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 16/02/2013 : 17:46:02
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Time to take a step back, asking who is the person this topic is all about - Gunvor - Julia - Gunbjør - Gumborg - Tomine - Drangsholdt - Salve - etc???
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Diane Wheeler
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Posted - 16/02/2013 : 22:24:20
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A lot of information here, so will check it all out. Gunvor did die, after the birth of her last child, so it'll be great to have the obituary. Olaf Gunderson then went to Saskatchewan, Canada and later married my great aunt Inga Kyllingstad-Clausen. Thanks again for the help. A great site for information, from Norway.
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Diane Wheeler
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Posted - 16/02/2013 : 22:36:13
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Do you have the site adddress for the marriage of Olaf & Gunder married in MOMS...Julia Olson, Polk E/48 8/12/1891 Gunderson Olef, Olsen Julia? This is the first time have seen the full date for that and would like to print it up.
Thanks aagain,
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/02/2013 : 00:19:39
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Originally posted by Diane Wheeler
Do you have the site adddress for the marriage of Olaf & Gunder married in MOMS...Julia Olson, Polk E/48 8/12/1891 Gunderson Olef, Olsen Julia? This is the first time have seen the full date for that and would like to print it up.
Thanks aagain,
Diane
The site is Minnesota Official Marriages
www.mncounty.com
It's a site for the information the actual certificate would have to be ordered with information at the site. You'd probably want to do that just to make sure that this is your Olaf. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/02/2013 : 01:00:11
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Originally posted by Diane Wheeler
A lot of information here, so will check it all out. Gunvor did die, after the birth of her last child, so it'll be great to have the obituary. Olaf Gunderson then went to Saskatchewan, Canada and later married my great aunt Inga Kyllingstad-Clausen. Thanks again for the help. A great site for information, from Norway.
Diane
Did have an opportunity today to look at the database you mentioned on Ancestry. Actually there are 3 with approximately the same information: Nielsen Family Tree, Mom'smysterioustree, Pederson-Petterson Christianson Wold Olson Jensdatter Nord. The initial problem I had about Salve Nielsen the father is no longer an issue as the databases which give Gunvor's parents list his birth year as 1824, a much more plausible parental birthyear for someone born in 1863,1864,1865.
Perhaps the people who owned the databases have some other compelling document or legitimate search history which really ties your gal to a Drangsolt or the Salve Nielsen /Anne Olsdatter family (maybe even a different one entirely) all I know is I haven't seen it yet. Hopefully they'll share.
The website with ordering information for the obit for Mrs. Olaf Gunderson is www.pchs.org
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Diane Wheeler
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Posted - 17/02/2013 : 01:18:25
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Thank you for those sites They could come in handy for other relatives too. Will be sending all the information to the great granddaughter tonight.
Does it say the name of the boat Gunvor came across over? I looked on the Ellis Island site and didn't find her name there.
Does the family information go back further, in Norway or is the information given me, the last of it? Just wondering.
Thanks again,
Diane
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/02/2013 : 01:55:53
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Ellis Island didn't open until 1892, so would not have been her point of entry.
The parish register listings of people leaving the parish typically don't have have anything more than a place where the person is travelling to. The police emigration lists will sometimes say the person's ultimate destination. The names of ships, either a feeder or an trans-Atlantic vessel are often in the police emigration lists, or the name of the shipping line.
I looked in Kristiansand and Oslo and Bergen but I can't say that I'm confident that I saw--perhaps some of the forumites have found her? |
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