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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/06/2015 :  21:03:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the 1910 census there is a son John Seaverson. Here is a transcription of his death record. His mother's name is given as Haugen:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FD7T-YJ2

So if the marriage record is the same family her name might be Norwegian style as

Anne / Anna
Gilbertson may = Gulbrandson or Gullickson or any patronymic with a G
Haugen

Came to US in 1870 or at least by 1876
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/06/2015 :  21:31:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a possible for Anne in the Minnesota State Census of 1875:
Martin C Gilbertson M 19 Iowa
G C Gilbertson M 29 Norway
Anna Gilbertson F 24 Norway
Hoken C Gilbertson M 0 Minnesota
Line Number: 11 , Family Number: 111
Citing this Record

"Minnesota, State Census, 1875," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKN6-CXF : accessed 11 June 2015), Anna Gilbertson in household of Martin C Gilbertson, Bancroft, Freeborn, Minnesota; citing p. 86, line 11, volume Freeborn County, State Library and Records Service, St.Paul; FHL microfilm 0565720.


Relationship between the people living together isn't given and their ages are very similar exceot for Hoken. Mower county borders Freeborn County.

Hmmm here is an interesting marriage record at MOMS:
FREEBORN BK A PAGE 276-2 10/10/1873
GILBERTSON, GILBERT C
HMRICKSON, ANN CHRISTINE


Off the table as Gilbert is listed as a widower with Hakin and another child in the 1880 census.

Edited by - jkmarler on 11/06/2015 21:45:39
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mastokk2
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Posted - 11/06/2015 :  21:54:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much for your good work!!
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mastokk2
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Posted - 11/06/2015 :  23:15:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still hope that the threadstarter have some interesting informations to give :-)
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/06/2015 :  23:31:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both Anne and John took homesteads in Pennington county, this from glorecords.blm.gov

MN1070__.432 PatenteeBRAATEN, ANNA C,
PatenteeSEAVERSON, ANNA C 12/12/1898 9600 MN 5th PM 153N - 044W SW¼NW¼ 8 Pennington


MN0340__.297 PatenteeSEAVERSON, JOHN 8/20/1884 3686 MN 5th PM 153N - 044W N½NE¼ 20 Pennington
153N - 044W NE¼NW¼ 20 Pennington
153N - 044W SE¼SW¼ 17 Pennington

Anna's was on an original homestead for 40 acres and John's was on a cash sale.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/06/2015 :  23:57:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This may be the family in 1885, although the son John is missing from the count of kids:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQX2-3YS
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  00:08:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is from the cemetery database at pchs.org (Pennington county Historical Society):

Broten Anne 12/24/1852 12/18/1918 66 Landstad
Broten Erick 11/10/1847 5/7/1928 81 Landstad

From the obituary index database at the same place:
Broten Anne 19-Dec-1918 66 Landstad Sanders Spectator

Edited by - jkmarler on 12/06/2015 00:12:17
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  01:02:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A possible for Anne birthdate varies 29 Dec 1852 instead of 24 Dec 1852 and only workable if Gilbertson = Gulbrandsdatter:

Source information: Oppland county, Øystre Slidre, Parish register (official) nr. 1 (1849-1874), Birth and baptism records 1853, page 14.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8996&idx_id=8996&uid=ny&idx_side=-17

On the farm Haugen in 1865:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038076001380

An Anne Gulbrandsdatter age 17 leaving for America #22 right page :
Source information: Oppland county, Øystre Slidre, Parish register (official) nr. 1 (1849-1874), Migration records 1869-1871, page 252.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8996&idx_id=8996&uid=ny&idx_side=-242

Going through Oslo headed for LaCrosse but no last name:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000404571


Edited by - jkmarler on 12/06/2015 01:20:46
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  01:25:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you able to link to the record which gives Anne's birthplace as Odan?
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  02:59:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only place I have seen a birth place for Anne is in various Family Trees on Ancestry.com and it is usually given as:

Anna Haugen Erickson
Birth Dec 1853 in Ordan, Norway
Death 1918 in Thief River Falls, Pennington, Minnesota, USA

Usually shows she first married a
Jon Seaverson
Birth 1847 in Norway
Death 1891 in Sanders, Pennington, Minnesota, USA

in abt 1877 and then married a

Erik C Broten
Birth 1847 in Kvarnbraaten, Norway
Death 1928 in Thief River Falls, Pennington, Minnesota, USA

in abt 1893

They all reference the 1880 Census that you posted.

Name: Anna Seaverson
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Grand Meadow, Mower, Minnesota


Edited by - AntonH on 12/06/2015 03:03:39
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  03:13:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would be great if some family member could weigh in on where Odan or Ordan came from.

Otherwise, I'm not sure I'd understand how Øystre Slidre could become Ordan. So even though Anne Gulbrandsdatter hits most of the marks regards Anne Seaverson it might still be wrong.

Here is her death in the Minnesota Death Index:
BROOTIN, ANNIE C.
Date of Birth: na
Place of Birth: na
Mother Maiden Name: na
certid# 1918-MN-013790
Date of Death: 18 Dec 1918
County of Death: PENNINGTON

I wonder if anyone has gotten her actual death certificate--sometimes has birth information and parents' names. On the other hand, since there's none of that in the transcribed record at familysearch perhaps the d.c. is blank on them:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDSP-SNY

They should also get her obituary. At Pennington Historical Society site there is information on how to order a copy. It might also have some information on her.

Edited by - jkmarler on 12/06/2015 03:36:54
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  04:06:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay Google found one instance of Odan, Norway. It came from the lincoln [Nebraska] Star Sunday 6 Dec 1936 pg 23 col;5. The snippet reads:
"Knut Andrew Knudsen was born in Odan, Norway March 2, 1867 and died at age 69 in Lincoln Nov. 23...."

The obit goes on to say he was brought to US at age 4 and that he is survived by a sister Mrs. Mary Phares of Denver, a brother Herman [Knudsen] of Waverly; 2 sons Herbert Theodore [Knudsen] and Torgny Andrew [Knudsen].

He's in Findagrave as Newton A. Knudsen.

And here in the 1930 census as "Nute" https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQK1-7KC

If we can figure out where he came from maybe will point a way for Anne.

Probably him in 1885 Nebraska:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3F9-B4M

800 and some Knut Knudsen in the Emigrants database 4 came from Odda or Oddernæs and then this one from Akero:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000665022
One from Akerø was born 19 Oct, so not likely


Interesting but not productive to the question.

Edited by - jkmarler on 13/06/2015 02:13:12
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mastokk2
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  07:28:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so very much for this!!

I think you have been working all the night (it is 07.15 am here now), my night I mean ;-)

And even Øystre Slidre not very easy can be Ordan, so maybe Oppland can be? Or what do you think?

If you think that time goes by, and they give information from generation to generation, it can maybe change to Ordan?

About the death records, yes the woman I help have them, I have been asking for a picture of them (because I have seen many times that I read Norwegian names very different than an American does), but I still have nothing received...

The woman I help have no further information than me, or you, I think now we knows a lot more than her....

I am quite sure that is the right one, but of course we cant be 100% as far ass we not have the "last detail", but what is that?

I really appreciate your very good help!!!

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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  07:49:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps there is a dødsfallsprotokol in Norway in Øystre Slidre for Anne's parents? If available maybe it would say Anne is in Minnesota!

But Anne Gulbrandsdatter came from a large family certainly more of them came to US also?

Oppland might be the origin, better than any that I have thought of.

Edited by - jkmarler on 12/06/2015 08:14:38
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mastokk2
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  08:17:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes! a good idea to check the dødsfallsprotokoll, I will try to locate their deathdates :-)

Another thought is to check in the bygdebok for Erick, I hope there maybe is written something about Anne`s heritage :-)

If we could locate John Seaverson where was he born, there can ba possibility too, maybe ssomething in a bygdebok :-)
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