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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 06/05/2013 : 22:58:29
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And his arrival into the United States
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Ingebrigt Dale
Arrival Date: 11 May 1903
Birth Date: abt 1880
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Ivernia |
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 23:57:44
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Originally posted by Kċarto
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Originally posted by tedwinter
Mary J. Valaker (Nov. 1878) I caught her birth place, Indiviken. Where?.
Indviken was Innvik
(Eline) Marie born Nov. 4. bap. Nov. 10. 1878 to Jacob Andersen (36) and Birthe Lassdatter (39) Valager, #16
Valaker 1900
Jacob Andersen and Brite/Birthe Larsdatter and Marie b. 1878
Servant maid Eline Marie Jacobsdatter Valaker em to Minneapolis, Minnesota via Bergen town July 24. 1906 link
I believe Anne Jacobsdatter b. 1866 married to Bertel Martinussen Valaker with 4 childre with lastname Bertelsen is Maries older sister
Kċre
Mari Jacobsdatter was Marie Jacobsdatters sister
Valaker 1910
Mari and Bertel, owners of Valaker with 8 children.
Jacob Andersen and Brite Larsdatter, family status "Fĝderaad", former owners with a legal right on free suplies on Valaker for the rest of their life.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 07/05/2013 00:01:47 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 23:58:14
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Following along and I think I have it straight -
Matt and Engle are not brothers. Probably friends in America and likely knew each other in Norway.
The name "Dale" comes because they are both born in Dale, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway. (?)
Mathias Johannessen Dale
born 26 June 1878, parents Johannes Ellingsen and Agathe Hansdatter, confirmed October 1893 in Gloppen
World War I Draft Registration - Matheas Johanneson Dale in Minneapolis born 26 Jun 1878
Ingebrigt Andreas Monsen Dale
born 02 May 1880, parents Mons Pedersson and Berthe Ingelbrightsdatter, confirmed October 1894 in Gloppen
World War I Draft Registration - Engle Dale born 02 May 1880 (living a few houses away from Matheas in Minneapolis)
As posted earlier the two seem to be together in 1905 in Osceola, Wisconsin: Matt Johnson Dale age 26 and Ingel Dale age 24 , living in a boarding house. |
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tedwinter
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Posted - 25/05/2013 : 10:30:49
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Lynda40, JaneC, Kaarto and jwiborg
I really appreciated your huge help and got surprised that you, all got all the right and straight information about Matt and Engle (Ingebright) Dale. I did not realize that Matt and Engle were not the brothers. They were possibly the cousins. Last week I entered digitalarkivet.no again and gave up because I never understood their last names being different or not same. Now I caught what you found for me. Yes, It made a sense that Engle A. or Engle M. Dale in America = Engle (Ingebright) A. (Andreas) M. (Monsen) Dale. The correct arrival date was 1903. Great! I have one question. See Ingebrigt's parents were Mons Pedersson and Berthe Ingelbrightsdatter. No Dale? Where did Ingebrigt get last name " Dale" from? Was Dale a town name? Can you explain to me clearly about their Norwegian rules of names? Now I feel good and will tell my friend, Sam Dale tomorrow. Great about Marie Valaker's parents. thanks again, Ted |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/05/2013 : 21:57:03
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Ingelbrekt Andreas Monsen was born on farm Dale Mai 2. bap. Mai 16. 1880 in Breim subparish in Gloppen.
Parents; "Pldsm; Pladsmand" Cottager Mons Pedersen b. 1842 and Brithe Ingelbrektsdatter Dale b.1835, see #17
Ingelbrekt/Ingebrigt also lived on Dale when he was confirmated Oct. 7. 1898.
Fathers occ; Cottager and Tailor.
He was vaccinated against Smallpox July 25. 1881 by N.R.Rogstad.
His grades was "Meget good" Very good #16
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Edited by - Kċarto on 26/05/2013 00:14:51 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/05/2013 : 22:09:24
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Ingelbright was bap. in Breim old medieval church, Gloppen.
The church was demolished before 1886 when Breim new church was build, the photo is from ca 1880-86, link
Breim old church was located to farm Hetle.
Ca 1,2 Miles slightly to the right, not visible, is farm Dale.
The lake is called Breimsvatnet.
Breim church from 1886 link
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Edited by - Kċarto on 27/05/2013 11:01:58 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/05/2013 : 23:44:03
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You can see farm Dale in this map.
Write; Dale Gloppen, enter Sĝk, click on "Dale, Gloppen (Bruk(gardsbruk)) and watch the farm either in the map or on photo by enter "Flyfoto"
Good luck .
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tedwinter
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 06:41:51
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Now I am improved. Thanks for your help
So far!
Ingelbright (Engle) Andreas Monsen Dale born May 2, 1880, Briem, Gloppen, Norway, son of Mons Pedersen and Brithe Ingelbrightstadder
Ingelbright's parents
Mons Pedersen, son of Thore Davidsen and Agnetha Arensdatter
b. July 23, 1843 and d. May19, 1900
Brite Ingelbrightstadder, dau of Ingelbrecht Johanssen and Anne Johanstdr
b. January 26, 1836 and d. ?
Mons and Brite were married June 23, 1871
Tell me if this info is correct. Thanks
Kare, yes, I saw the map of Dale farm. Interesting. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 14:36:31
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I think you are right, I´ll put in the records later for you.
Brite servant maid on farm Felde 1865
Mons, tailor on his older brother Arne Pedersens farm Reed in Breim 1865
Arne Pedersen married to Ragnild Olsdatter with two daughters and a son.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 27/05/2013 14:37:41 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 18:07:49
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Brite (Brithe) born Jan. 26. bap. Feb. 7.1836.
Parents; Ingebrigt Johanessen Ĝversĉter and Ane Johanesdatter #7
One of the godfathers, Ingebrigt or Anes brother, Niels Johannesen, was from Dale.
Perhaps the Dale name is coming from Brites family?
No names on Anes father when she married Ingebrekt Johansen Dec. 10. 1820, he was from Ĝversĉter age 20 and Ane age 20 from farm Kaale, see right page #20
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Edited by - Kċarto on 27/05/2013 22:37:36 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 18:34:54
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Mons Pedersen born July 23. 1843 on farm Raad?
Parents; Peder Thorsen and Agnete Arnesdatter #33
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Edited by - Kċarto on 27/05/2013 22:18:55 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 20:05:45
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Dale was two farms in 1801.
I am not sure, but have a strong feeling that Johannes Ellingsen age 6, son on Elling Johannesen 46 and Synneve Arnesdatter 35 on Dale in 1801 was Ane Johannesdatters father.
Johannes age 6 in 1801 was not Anes father.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 27/05/2013 22:50:18 |
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Two Dale Brothers came to Minnesota from Norway
