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anton13
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 23/05/2013 : 23:37:36
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nils was drafted under his real name Nils Olsen Lillibakken (with an i)
Actually the name that Nils is transcribed under for his Draft Registration is a little different.
U,.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Nels Olsen Lillibakken
County: Marshall
State: Iowa
Birth Date: 27 Sep 1878
Race: White |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/05/2013 23:51:45 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/05/2013 : 23:42:16
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Nils is married in the 1910 census but living with his mother, is listed as married in the police lists in Norway, on his arrival lists, and his mother is still living and listed as his nearest relative in 1917-1918 when he registers for the draft. Did his mother have an estate in which locations for living children might be found?
Nils' nearest living relative on his draft registration card is named Marit but is not identified as wife or mother, both Rindalen and Trondhjem for address.
The reason to follow Ole Loe is to see if any of his nephews are mentioned as surviving when he dies in 1937--unless you already have his obit and they are not mentioned.
Nils registered for the draft but you don't have records to indicate he actually served. Mostly the ones drafted were those born between 1889-1900. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 24/05/2013 : 04:21:01
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Hi Steve, I posted the records (which I mentioned were identified by others) because I like to see transcriptions of records that are mentioned. I like to see the information in the thread instead of having to keep referring to links. It's a boring job to copy and paste and fill in the transcriptions, so if I do it then no one else has to. And yes, you may have known all that - but the forum members didn't, not at the outset. If the answer to your question doesn't leap out at anyone early on, then the process is: amass as much information as possible, then tug at each little thread and see where it leads. As jkmarler points out, one thread would be the uncle Ole K. - his nephews may or may not be living near him, or near his children, or mentioned in his obituary, or buried in the same cemetery as someone in this family, etc. I would very much like you to upgrade me from an F to at least a B in this class, lol.
Re. Lars Olson in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon
World War I Draft Registration
Name: Lars Olson
City: Portland
County: Multnomah
State: Oregon
Birth Date: 20 Aug 1878 <----------------
Race: White
"Your" Lars OLSSON (LILLEBAKKEN) b. Jan. 26, 1877 <--------------------
Sorry it's not a match. Bummer.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 24/05/2013 : 05:42:42
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Here is a possible Nels Olsen b. abt 1878 who is married in the 1920 census but with no visible wife. (It's possible that Nels didn't die in the influenza epidemic but opted to use only part of his name):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MHQG-LM5
Since California is a possible venue here are Nels / Nils Olson / Olsen in the California Death index 1905-1929 with birthyear (calculated from death dates & ages) 1877, 1878, 1879:
Nels Olson
age 45 years
died 13 July 1924
location # 70
State file number 32607
Nels Olsen
50 years
died 29 Dec 1929
location #30
State file number 4994
I wasn't able to find a key to the number for the location. Also looked for Lillebakken / Lillibakken and found none 1905-1929.
Looked at the North Dakota Public Death Index and there were no Lillebakken / Lillibakken deaths 1910-1979.
Additionally, searching at familysearch.org in both the 1930 and 1940 censuses for California found only one Nels Olson born 1878 Norway, married to Louise Heckman. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 24/05/2013 15:24:43 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2013 : 15:27:02
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Here is the Ancestry.com version of the 1920 Census. It has the arrival year as 1911. I do not see an arrival year in the Family Search version. Why is that.
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Nels Olsen
[Nils Olsen]
Age: 42
Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Los Angeles Assembly District 65, Los Angeles, California
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Marital Status: Married
[Single]
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2013 : 16:26:31
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2013 : 17:03:27
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This one is close (WWI Draft Registration below). Lars Olsen Lillebakken was born 26 January 1877, but when he emigrated and arrived Ellis Island 1903 his destination was "Emipire, Minnesota" - so why would he be in Philadelphia? Of course it's possible, but usually immigrants moved from east to west - not west to east.
World War I Draft Registration
Dated 12 September 1918
Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Louis Olsen, age 41
Born 27 January 1877 in Norway
He is an alien; he has not filed papers for US citizenship
Occupation: Restauranteur
Address: 2914 Richmond
Nearest relative: wife Annie Olsen |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 24/05/2013 : 17:13:00
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People will go wherever their opportunity takes them.
Here is Louis Olsen in the 1920 census at familysearch:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MF1V-7G4
Actual schedule says Louis has no occupation and came here in 1906 or possibly 1905.
From www.mncounty.com Lars Olsen to Ann ____ 1-1-1903 to 1-1-1920 none found. This is the only Louis / Ann Olsen combo--Dahl doesn't seem very German last name:
HENNEPIN 02050414 8/14/1917
OLSEN, LOUIS
DAHL, ANNA |
Edited by - jkmarler on 24/05/2013 18:10:58 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2013 : 17:17:55
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What's his occupation?
Laborer on the rail road |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2013 : 18:29:30
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This is from the Iron Range Interpretive database of Minnesota naturalization records, actually the alien registrations:
Alien Registration Record
Nils Olsen Lillebakken
County: Hennepin
City: Minneapolis
State: MINNESOTA
Age: 39
Roll #: 207
Frame #: 0043
Source:
Not sure what the cost is for a copy of the file but here is information about what's in the file:
1918 Minnesota Alien Registration Records
Order Alien Registration Search
The Minnesota Alien Registration of 1918 was conducted to register all foreign born persons who were living in Minnesota, but who had not yet become US citizens. The resident was required to complete a 35 question schedule and to provide much personal information, including kind and amount of property holdings. In addition to the resident's name each entry gives the county and township, village, lumber camp or city in which the form is filed.
The Iron Range Research Center holds microfilmed copies of the original 1918 Alien Registration documents for all 87 Minnesota counties, and has created an index for those entries that can be searched by clicking on the tab above. Copies of documents can be ordered through the website once a record has been identified.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2013 : 19:17:38
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Originally posted by JaneC
World War I Draft Registration (mentioned earlier)
Nels Olsen Lillibakken, age 39
County: Marshall
State: Iowa
Birth Date: 27 Sep 1878
Race: White
Residence: Lodging Hotel 202 Minneapolis, [Hennepin County], Minnesota
Alien, Non-Declarant (has not filed papers for US citizenship)
Citizen of Norway
Occupation: Laborer, Jno [ Jonathan?] Jacobsen
Place of Employment: Marshalltown, Marshall, Iowa
Nearest Relative; Marit Lillibakken, Rindalskogin (?) , Trondjem (?)
Medium height, brown eyes, brown hair
12 September 1918
I wonder why he does not name one of the family in the USA as his "nearest relative"?
Good find. The 1918 Alien Registration for Nils in Hennepin County, Minnesota, fits with the 1918 World War I draft registration which says his residence is Minneapolis - which is in Hennepin County, Minnesota.
I wondered why he did not name his brother Lars as his nearest relative, thinking maybe Lars had already died by 1918. Of course Lars also could be the guy in Philadelphia. Or somewhere else.
Some alternates: Lars/Louis/Lewis/Lawrence/Laurence/Larry |
Edited by - JaneC on 24/05/2013 19:21:45 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2013 : 20:43:40
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This is a NIls Olsen living in Minneapolis in 1919. No family shown.
U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989
Name: Nils Olsen
Residence Year: 1919
Street Address: 2109 Minneapolis av
Residence Place: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Occupation: Hlpr
Publication Title: Minneapolis, Minnesota, City Directory, 1919
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2013 : 20:45:06
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| Nearest relative might have 2 definitions: physically nearest or closest in blood... |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2013 : 22:21:26
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| Yup |
Edited by - JaneC on 24/05/2013 22:33:25 |
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