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AntonH
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 11/06/2013 : 19:43:22
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#7 in 1844 Halvor Haldorson & Marit Olsdatter wedding, both were unmarried at time:
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Nord-Aurdal, Klokkerbok nr. 1 (1834-1887), Ekteviede 1843-1844, side 631-632.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9366&idx_id=9366&uid=ny&idx_side=-248
he resides Bergerseie she on Holdalseie
his father Haldor Halverson
hers Ole Erikson
Here is their son Haldor #30 they were residents of Sæbøe, same farm as Gulbrand's family from?: no thanks !Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Nord-Aurdal, Klokkerbok nr. 1 (1834-1887), Fødte og døpte 1844, side 179-180.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9366&idx_id=9366&uid=ny&idx_side=-92
Son named Ole #28:
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Nord-Aurdal, Klokkerbok nr. 1 (1834-1887), Fødte og døpte 1847, side 199-200.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9366&idx_id=9366&uid=ny&idx_side=-102
residents of Gistadeie
Son named Erik #10:
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Nord-Aurdal, Klokkerbok nr. 1 (1834-1887), Fødte og døpte 1850, side 219-220.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9366&idx_id=9366&uid=ny&idx_side=-112
residents of Gigstadeie; Niels Haldorsen Bergerseie one of the faddernes
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jwiborg
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Posted - 11/06/2013 : 21:41:05
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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is their son Haldor #30 they were residents of Sæbøe, same farm as Gulbrand's family from?:
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Nord-Aurdal, Klokkerbok nr. 1 (1834-1887), Fødte og døpte 1844, side 179-180.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9366&idx_id=9366&uid=ny&idx_side=-92
No, this is Sæbu in Skrautvål, Nordre Aurdal, Oppland
Gulbrand's origin was Sårbu in Øye, Vang, Oppland.
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vking
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Posted - 11/06/2013 : 23:02:00
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I still wonder about immigration year of 1865 (on census ) vs. 1870 when they actually came?? Also, location of her family and connecting with Gulbrand? Looks like I'll go after some obits from this Halverson family and see if survivors list Anne as a Sorbo. Also, I'll try to find this particular Anne's marriage and see who that is to. Too bad she's not on the MOM's site. That would be too easy! Got my work cut-out for me, but if this is the right Anne, you guys have done the rest. Thanks!
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/06/2013 : 23:10:51
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You should check the MOMS site for which counties are in the base and which are not. Freeborn is not listed as being in the base(however today results from Freeborn show up--go figure) so it's possible that she & Gulbrand married there or some other Minnesota county not covered yet.
Yes there is still a ways to go to connect her to the Halver Haldorsons, the birth date is very close, the immigration date is within the +/- years rule of thumb. There were significant numbers of Norwegians in McLeod county and the county's records begin fairly early, marriages 1865 and b& d 1870. It would be very interesting to know why Lars Øyane thinks she is person from Nord Aurdal... |
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vking
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 03:55:27
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Jan, Can you ask Lars why he thinks this is my Anne? Just want to know the thinking. Thanks
Jackie, I didn't realize that the MOMS site doesn't include all counties. Freeborn county is certainly a possibility, too. These Halversons seem to stay in McLeod County, so I need to be sure it is this Anne who wed Gulbrand. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 13:13:53
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Trying to find more info about her family in the US.
Could this be Anne's sister Guri? Listed as born in April. Married to Gilbert, although not INGEBRETSON.
Julia Gester
Census-1880 for Willmar, Kandiyohi, Minnesota, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Housekeeper
Race (Original): W
Ethnicity: American
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Date: 1855
Spouse's Name: Gilbert Gester
Spouse's Birthplace: Sweden
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household
Self Gilbert Gester M 36 Sweden
Wife Julia Gester F 25 Norway
Daughter Carrie Gester F 3 Minnesota, United States
Daughter Gemde Gester F 1 Minnesota, United States
Other Eda Carlson F 19 Sweden
Julia Gjester
Census-1900 for ED 190 Eldorado & Hillsboro Township (incl. Hillsboro Hospital) Hillsboro city, Traill, North Dakota, United States
Birth Date: Apr 1852
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 24
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1876
Mother of how many children: 6
Number of Living Children: 4
Immigration Year: 1866
Household:
Head Gilbert Gjester M 69 Norway
Wife Julia Gjester F 48 Norway
Son Gilbert Gjester M 9 North Dakota
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jwiborg
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 15:28:45
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Birthdates for the Gigstad-eie family in question. All born in Skrautvål, Nord-Aurdal, Oppland.
Halvor Haldorsen, b. 09 Jan 1820
Marit Olsdatter, b. 04 May 1821
Haldor Halvorsen, b. 06 Sep 1844
Ole Halvorsen, b. 03 Jul 1847
Erik Halvorsen, b. 12 Mar 1850
Knud Halvorsen, b. 22 Oct 1853
Anne Halvorsdatter, b. 03 Apr 1856
Guri Halvorsdatter, b. 03 Apr 1856
Marit Halvorsdatter, b. 02 Dec 1863
Maria Halvorsdatter, b. 28 Nov 1867
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 16:04:11
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The Gesters, Gjesters must have ended up in the state of Wahington at some point.
U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989
Name: Julia Gjester
Gender: Female
Residence Year: 1931
Street Address: 1414 5th av S
Residence Place: Kelso, Washington
Spouse:
Gilbert Gjester
Publication Title: Kelso, Washington, City Directory, 1931 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 17:55:01
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Here are the Gjester entries for homestead at www.glorecords.blm.gov site:
Accession Names Date Doc # State Meridian Twp - Rng Aliquots Sec. # County
46712 GJESTER, GILBERT 2/15/1909 0235 ND 5th PM 140N - 069W SE¼ 32 Stutsman
840993 GJESTER, JULIA 1/4/1922 053827 MT Montana PM 037N - 029E SE¼ 20 Phillips
Julia's was an original homestead so the file is apt to be very interesting, also spendy at $40/.
Not a whole lot of details on this family. The son Gilbert apparently married in Grand Forks county in 1910 to Annie Kortness. He also died on 2 Feb 1916 and was buried at the Memorial Park Cemetery in Grand Forks. There is a Hannah Gjester who attended the School for the Deaf in Devils Lake and is living there in 1900. A Gunda Bertine Gjester married in Traill county on 10 Apr 1897 a Hagebart J. Hanson.
Here is a link to Julia Jester's death in Washington in 1941. This is a promising detail her father is listed as Halver Halverson:
www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/8E5666AB2FF4146F4BF57F88ACC56DB2" target="_blank">http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/8E5666AB2FF4146F4BF57F88ACC56DB2
Here Julia is widowed living on her own in Washington, same place as in 1935:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-27867-15969-58?cc=2000219&wc=M9Q8-JWF:n965907691 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 19:06:40
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Great work!
The link to her death in Washington in 1941 was indeed very promising! It will be hard to find any better proof of her origin.
But even though it looks like she must be the twin sister to "our" Anne Halvorson, it might be hard to find any link to Gilbert Sorbo.
Is it possible that the death certificate could contain a Next of kin?
Here she is in the 1940 United States Federal Census for Kelso, Cowlitz, Washington
Name: Julia Jester
Respondent: Yes
Age: 89
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Kelso, Cowlitz, Washington
View Map
Street: Mill Street
House Number: 114
Inferred Residence in 1935: Kelso, Cowlitz, Washington
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 2A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 40
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 12
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Julia Jester 89
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 19:52:51
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quote:
Originally posted by vking
Jan, Can you ask Lars why he thinks this is my Anne? Just want to know the thinking. Thanks
Below is his additional information (my translation):
I have several points that substantiates my thoughts about Anne Halvorsdatter:
* She is listed with different ages in America, between 1853 and 1856, and we know that the exact date of birth often can diverge from Norway to America. The important thing is that the calendar-difference is not too big. Up until three weeks mistake in dates is not uncommon, even if the year does not match. I've seen examples of bigger differences than this!
* The parents listed on her death certificate fits very well with the aforementioned Anne.
* Gulbrand Olson came from Valdres, and then it is likely that also Anna was from that area.
* I can't locate their marriage, but I have several examples of marriage that has not been reported to the authorities as it should have been done...
Sincerely yours,
Lars E. Oyane
Jan Peter
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 20:39:12
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Had some difficulty finding Gilbert Gjester the son in the 1910 census. At HeritageQuest his last name is indexed as "Chester". He is employed as a shipping clerk at the Biscuit co. He is boarding in a household headed by a Mary Berg age 42 b. Norway, who is widowed has had 5 children and 5 living. Her oldest 2 children are also employed at the biscuity co. All the children born in North Dakota.
At genealogybank.com in the Grand Forks Herald, there is an obituary of sorts for a person whose last name is "Chester" on 17 Feb 1916, stating he is being laid to rest today and his parents are unaware. No other details given. There is no one with the last name "Chester" buried at Memorial Park Cem in GF (as of 1995)--could be some other cemetery entirely--the snippet is mostly just the headline. There is no Gjester mentions in 1916
The North Dakota Public Death Index finds no entries of the last name Chester in 1916 but Gilbert Gjester is listed. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 21:32:52
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The 1920-census for Phillips, Montana shows they have a divorced daughter named Gundar Hansen, born ab. 1884 in Minnesota
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searching Anne Halvorsen family
