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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 12/07/2013 : 23:34:57
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Trying to understand some of the ins & outs of records in the new probate database. Anybody with clarifying information invited to respond, please:
Lars Larsen Sønderengen’s death on 10 Sept 1835 aged 83 years, “huusmand”, precipitated this guardianship record for the children of Ole Larsen & Mari Jonsdatter.
Found under "Værgemaal" at the very bottom of the left column on the left hand page 254, continuing to the left column on the right hand page 255:
Source information: Buskerud county, Ringerike sorenskriveri, Skifteutlodningsprotokoll 1 (Hbd 0001), 1828-1841, oppb: Statsarkivet i Kongsberg.
Permanent page-link: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/25563/258/?size=medium&mode=0
Ole Larsen’s death occurred between 1827 (when the last child Engebret was conceived) and 1831 (when the oldest child Johanne is confirmed and he is described as “afgaang” /departed). Why did Ole’s death/departure not precipitate a guardianship proceeding for these children before 1835? Is the correct assumption that Lars Larsen Sønderengen is the father of Ole Larsen, or some other relative of Ole Larsen?
As sometimes found in American records in the 1800s a woman is not considered to be an adequate guardian of her children’s interests and another, meaning a man, of course, will be appointed. Mari Jonsdatter was still alive, living until 1862, is a woman not considered adequate to act on behalf of her own children in Norway or is there something else going on?
In another apparent gender difference amongst the children each of the boys are listed with 12.2.4 8/11 and each of the girls are listed with 6.1.2 4/11. Is this measurement a value of their care or what they might be receiving from the estate--provided that a huusmand can have an estate? What do those numbers represent?
And a Margit Syversdatter is mentioned in a couple of places with a descriptor that apparently ends with what I think is the word enke. Is she the widow or not?
Takk for hjelpa! |
Edited by - jkmarler on 12/07/2013 23:59:29 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/07/2013 : 00:31:43
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With regards to the distribution of property, for many years the law provided that a son would inherit twice as much as a daughter. This did not change until 1854 when the law was changed to provide for equal division between brother and sister.
I would have assumed that the woman was somehow unable to care for the children. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/07/2013 : 01:03:15
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| There must be some differing degrees of inheritances. I've heard that the eldest son inherited "everything" and rest were given short shrift. Perhaps that practice relates to land rather than other assets or cash? Don't know....But thanks for information all the same. |
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Hopkins
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/07/2013 : 03:58:01
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| Yes, indeed I do, I should have thought looking at it. But certainly covers enough of the questions I have about the general records. Mange takk. |
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Lars Larsen Sønderengen abt 1752-1835
