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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 31/12/2016 :  01:59:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did go through all the utflyttedes from Sauherad 1844-1850 looking for a Gunnil leaving with three children but found none with the right names, ages etc. Perhaps Gunnil is related to the apparent wife Ann who might be the 2nd Mrs. Ougun Torgrimsen since the first apparently died in 1848. Lots and lots of Telemarknings in Columbia county.

Have you ever searched for John Peterson or Person in the Trove newspaper search site?
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2016 :  02:08:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An update on the John Pedersen born in 1831 and arriving on the Colon posted by Jackie on page 3.. He is found in the record for "Norwegians of Dodge and Olmsted, Minnesota" I think we can eliminated him as he died in 1901.

http://oiseth.org/getperson.php?personID=I363&tree=dodgo

Edited by - AntonH on 31/12/2016 02:08:40
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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/12/2016 :  05:48:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He is probably also the same John Peterson in the 1870 census in Columbia county, Wisc.
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/12/2016 :  23:53:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ingeborg born in 1804, number 83

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20061211010193

Probably the family in 1801 before Ingeborg was born

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058311002002

Edited by - AntonH on 31/12/2016 23:57:38
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LozzaA
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Posted - 02/01/2018 :  00:15:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi
I am new to this site so please be patient.

I too am looking for John Pearson who was apparently born Johan Pettersen (may or may not have had Carl as his middle name) in 1836 and who came to Australia in 1860 and married Englishwoman Martha Alderman in 1863. They resided at Lawson in New South Wales and had 13 children including my grandmother. He is proving to be quite elusive and he seems to have been mixed up with the Wenneberg family in several trees (including mine) as these people had a son within a year of my great grandfather's birth named Johan Carl also.

I have even thought maybe his name may have been Carl Johan Pettersen as sometimes people went with another variation for various reasons and there are a few of them too but I haven't come across any born in 1836 as yet.

Is there somewhere in Norway that I may be able to write to and see if they can help me solve this riddle? I would appreciate any help you maybe able to offer me. I hate not having solved it and finding out more about my Norwegian roots. I know he was a railway ganger and then worked as a miner in a gold mine when in Australia so not sure what he did before but I would love to find out more. I do have a picture of he and his wife but would also love to know and see more of his and his ancestors' history. I've also heard that he was orphaned at 8 years old and went to live with relatives in America but I haven't come up with anything at all from the US either so he is proving to be a real mystery.

Thank you in advance if any of you can help me with this person's information.

Regards
LozzaA
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/01/2018 :  22:50:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are other internet sites that will help people with questions about their ancestors. For example Brukernes eget forum (User's Own Forum) is one and it does have a section in English on how to use the Forum.

Link

I am not sure that they will be able to provide much more information on your John Pearson than that is found in the 5 to 6 pages already generated on the John Pearson who married Martha Alderman in 1863 in Australia. However if you do try another site please inform them of the work already done so they do not spend a lot of time generating the knowledge already known.

The information that seems to pop up on your John Pearson is that he was born maybe April , 1836 and maybe was born in Kragerø parish, Telemark County, Norway and maybe arrived in Australia in 1860 on a ship named Oscar.

It seems likely that some of the speculative information is incorrect since it did not lead to a good candidate after some significant amount of time searching.

The two candidates found born in 1836 in Kragerø, Telemark by Kåre proved to be dead ends.

John/Johan Pedersen/Petersen born in Kragerø;
- Andreas Johan Petersen bap. Nov. 27. 1836. Parents; Peter Hasset and Else Severine Sørensen
- Johan Carl Pedersen bap. Feb. 21. 1836. Parents; Petter Heuch Wennenberg and Hedvig Elisbeth Christensen

I have looked at the manifest for the arrival of the Oscar on April 2, 1860 in Ancestry.com data base All New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 and found of the crewman only two John's, a John Mills and a John Scott born 1836 and 1838. But not very good name matches.

Edited by - AntonH on 02/01/2018 23:26:36
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/01/2018 :  00:06:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of the posts by spearson refers to "arriving in Australia via NZ on a ship called "the Oscar" in 1860, according to the copy I have his Naturalization (granted in 1892) and born Kragera on his Naturalization. " The data from the Naturalization has the advantage of most likely been given by John Pearson himself and may thus have a better chance to be accurate than that from the death certificate or from memories of his descendants.

Here is a list of the Crew of the Oscar arriving April 2, 1860, Sydney, New South Wales.

Name Estimated birth year Port of Arrival Voyage Arrival Date Vessel Name Origin Location View Images
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Edward Domedy
abt 1838 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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C Essmein
abt 1841 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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Ewen Evans
abt 1839 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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Wm Forbes
abt 1832 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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Simon Grays
abt 1835 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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Chs Hagg
abt 1837 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
View Record
Jost Hayes
abt 1839 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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Doctor Osew Jefferson
abt 1828 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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Jas Jugenoll
abt 1836 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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Otto Kiahn
abt 1842 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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John Mills
abt 1838 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
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Chs Portersen
abt 1833 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
View Record
Jas Rame
abt 1836 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
View Record
John Scott
abt 1836 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States
View Record
Joseph Sears
abt 1842 Sydney, New South Wales 2 Apr 1860 Oscar United States

As you can see there is no name close to that of John Pearson on the list, so if the Naturalization Record for John Pearson is correct his real name could be quite different from Johan Pedersen.

Edited by - AntonH on 03/01/2018 00:15:24
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LozzaA
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Posted - 03/01/2018 :  00:52:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi lyndal40

Thank you so much for that information I will have a look at the site you suggest and see what I find.

It is very difficult to find out any information on him as I am not sure what I have to do to find him either in Norway or perhaps I may find him in America.

Thanks again I'll let you know if I find anything further.

Regards
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