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Kåarto
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Posted - 24/09/2013 :  23:05:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

You have been great got to fill in quite a bit of info. I have looked for it before no luck.



Ole was Jons brother.
Ole Narvesen Narverud was born in Kongsberg June 20. 1813, bap. Augus 7. to Narve Trulsen Narverud and Ronnou Andbiornsdatter (it seems like the priests had problems with her name), see left page line 6-9 from top, link

Narverud is a farm in Jondalen, a former parish north of Kongsberg, merged with Kongsberg 1964.

Thats is probably why Narve and Rønnaug married in Kongsberg church, see Jan Peters posting, before they settled down in Sandsvær

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 24/09/2013 23:33:47
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Kåarto
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Posted - 24/09/2013 :  23:41:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jwiborg

Marriage record #26
John Narvesen Moen (28) & Aslaug Olsdatter (18)
Marriage: 12 Oct 1844, Sandsvær, Buskerud, Norway
Jan Peter



Jon`s occ. when he married was "Bergarbeider" Miner in Kongsberg Silver Mines

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 25/09/2013 00:19:16
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  00:09:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok Narves father is Ole Trulesen I cant figure out which one is his mother April 8 Kongsberg 1775 pg 86 cant figure out how to put the link here
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  00:12:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sorry Truels Olson

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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  00:12:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its getting late in Norway.
I have a last question for you reg. your ancestor John Narvesen born Dec. 28. 1815 in Sandsvær.

Have you seen his bapt. record?
His wedding record from 1844 tells he was from Bjørndalen in Jondalen.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 25/09/2013 00:16:21
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jwiborg
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  00:16:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes; Narve's father listed as Truels Olsen Narverued. Mother not listed.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 25/09/2013 00:17:27
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  00:17:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have his baptism record I think I have the right one i have seen it under Sandsvær
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  00:22:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Goodnite thanks for the help
Kim
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  00:35:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

I have his baptism record I think I have the right one i have seen it under Sandsvær




You are right, John was born on Kobbervoldene on Meheia Dec. 28. 1815, bap. in Hedenstad church March 3. 1816.

Now his mother Rønnaug was a Olsdatter again.

Good night.

Kåre
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jkmarler
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  06:43:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ambrosiusdatter vs Olsdatter

They might both be right. I've had that happen when a father has a pronounced middle name, for instance Carl Johan. Sometimes the children are called Carlsen and sometimes Johansen and even Carljohansen.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  10:54:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kobbervoldene was a copper mine in Sagrenda population center ca 3 Miles from Meheia and the same distance to Kongsberg.
This coppermine was mentioned 1490.
The name of the mine is "Der Verlorne Sohn" in German, The Lost Son .
There were a large imm. of German miners to Kongsberg from ca 1624 so many of the mines has German names.
- We can assume that Narve Trulsen was employeed by the mining company before 1801.

Not sure what Rønnaug`s lastmane was;
Anbjørnsdatter (spelled Anbiornsdatter), Ambjørnsdatter, Ambrosiusdatter or Olsdatter.
- She died on Finnemyr rec. as Ambrosiusdatter

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 25/09/2013 16:24:48
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  16:12:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

This could be them:

Right page, Narve Truelsen & Ronnau Ambiornsdr
Marriage: 30 Jan 1796, Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Source: Buskerud county, Kongsberg, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1795-1816), Marriage records 1796, page 353.

Jan Peter


I believe it is the right couple.

Naming in Kongsberg was a challenge in the past.
There were no rules for how a name was spelled, and with priests born in Germany and Denmark at the same time to the end of the 1700s in add. to Norwegian priests.
Because of that the same name could be spelled different.
Even today there are at least 5 dialects in "Kongsberg" which was a melting pot in that time;
- Øvre Sandsvær
- Ytre Sandsvær (2 dialects)
- Kongsberg
- Jondalen with two-three dialects in the 1700 when the upper part belonged to Gransherad in Telemark and the lover part was split between Flesberg in Numedal and Øvre Sandsvær.

Rønnau Ambiørnsdatter was confirmated in Kongsberg April 12. 1795 link

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 25/09/2013 16:22:11
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  16:42:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats what i was just going to say maybe the Priest in Hedenstad couldnt spell it and put olsdatter instead.
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  16:47:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wanted to thank you on the information on the area the mining and the churches are quite interesting. Was looking at sites last night that i could get to translate. They have a music festival at the church in
in Kongsberg that looks quite beautiful.
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  17:00:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Family that moved to the United States all married into Swedish family's My father learned Swedish before he learned English. Its called New Sweden and the place is very steeped in tradition still. It was founded
In 1872 Barbro Marie was the first to move there in 1873 She had somehow met and married a Swedish man Bengt Svensson Landin. The Landin Family says they were married in Sweden I can find him Immigrating to Norway
between 1868 and 1870 he goes back and forth. There daughter Alma is born in March of 1870 in Norway according to U.S Census Data. But I cant find them marrying in either place.
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