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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  18:37:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Question I was going through the 1801 Census Ambiĝrn seems to be a womans name did they ever take their mothers name if they were Illegitimate?
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  18:43:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

Thats what i was just going to say maybe the Priest in Hedenstad couldnt spell it and put olsdatter instead.



There are wrongspellings in the parish records and the censuses (the origin is kept, will be corrected later)
There was no one to check/correct what the priest wrote.

Nor that someone should wonder about it ca 200 years later

Kċre
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  18:46:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

Question I was going through the 1801 Census Ambiĝrn seems to be a womans name did they ever take their mothers name if they were Illegitimate?


Ambjĝrn is a mans name, contra Ambjĝrg, a female name.

The fathers name was used also for children born out of wedloc, but they were not heirs to the father.

Kċre
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  19:09:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No one sems to know where Narve Trulsen came from. Narve-Narverud?
I have seen his last name spelled Narve Tordsen.
Narverud is a farm in Eiker parish, neighbor parish to Kongsberg.
I also belive is was a farm Narverud, a sub farm under farm Rĝnningsdalen in Gransherad, neighbor parish to Jondalen whics also has a Narverud farm.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 25/09/2013 19:26:51
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  19:12:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think its strange that his mother isn't listed in his baptism record?
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jwiborg
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  19:33:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

I think its strange that his mother isn't listed in his baptism record?

You refer to the 1776 record? In those days, that was very common.

Jan Peter
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  19:56:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Narve Trulsens fathet was Truls.

A Truels Olsen Narverud married Gunor Knudsdatter Nattestad from Nattestad in Veggli in Numedal on Sept. 12. 1749.
3. column 20-21 line from top, click here

If someone can find a Narve Trulsen b. ca 1775 plus/minus in Kongsberg we can be almost sure it is your Narve Trulsen.

Now I saw you had found him on page 2 Jan Peter

He was the only Narve Trulsen in Kongsberg/Sandsvĉr 1801.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 25/09/2013 20:12:29
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  20:05:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Narve Trulsen Narverud was confirmated in Kongsberg church April 11. 1790, link

The origin of Truls Olsen Narverud was probably Narverud in Gransherad.
A Ole Narvesen from Narverud in Gransherad/Jondalen had a son Truls Olsen b. ca 1715 married to Gunor Knudsdatter.

Source; A discussion in Norwegian ref. to Gransherad Bygdbook link

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 25/09/2013 20:39:43
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  20:15:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The link for Narves baptism is on her under Truels Olsen its back a page. I cant figure out how to do links I think you might have found his mother
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  20:19:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

The link for Narves baptism is on her under Truels Olsen its back a page. I cant figure out how to do links I think you might have found his mother



Its not difficult, perhaps someone can explain it for you.
I am a bad teacher.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 25/09/2013 20:47:15
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  20:29:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow you are good at this you have no Idea how much I appreciate this Thanks again
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  21:06:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are welcome.

Found this page, it confirm the info above.
Truls Olsen Narverud had 3 siblings. 4 children.
Owner: Per Evensen, Norway.

Reg. Nattestad;
Gunor Knudsdatter Nattestad was probably a sister to Ole and Anstein Knudsen Nattestad who em. to USA 1837.
Lots of pages about them online, here is Ole link.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 25/09/2013 21:23:59
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  21:18:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Those listed are Truels children with Gunnor Knudsdatter she died in bef. 1763 the conversation from what i could make out of it with google translate said he remarried a Mari Olsdatter., b 1730, d after 1827.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  21:25:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly Johnson

Those listed are Truels children with Gunnor Knudsdatter she died in bef. 1763 the conversation from what i could make out of it with google translate said he remarried a Mari Olsdatter., b 1730, d after 1827.



You have a sharp eye.
He was married twice.
My fault, sorry.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 25/09/2013 21:33:04
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Kimberly Johnson
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Posted - 25/09/2013 :  22:01:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found Truels second marriage its in Kongsberg 1763 Sept 10 To Ingebore Marie Andersdatter can you decipher the farm name next to her.
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