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Sandranistri
Starting member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 26/11/2013 : 16:00:35
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Hi there everyone. I am trying to track down my great grandfather who was born in Moss, Norway, in 1856. He was a mariner and left Norway at some stage and married Frances Holtby in Sculcoates (Hull, Yorkshire) in 1881 or thereabouts. Does anyone know anything about his Norwegian background? He had seven children in Hull, the eldest George W Meier, born in 1884 and the youngest Olive Katinka born in 1899.
Many thanks in advance for any replies,
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 26/11/2013 : 16:04:53
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Here is the information from my post in the other topic. I will delete that response on that topic:
There is an Olof Meier in the 1901 England census. Birthyear is given as 1856 and birth place is Moss, Norway:
With a name spelled as Olof born in Moss each of these possibles are within the+/- 5 years on a birth in 1856 rule of possiblity, from the 1865 Norwegian census:
Olof Lauritzsen age 7
Olof Olsen age 9
Johan Olof Been age 14
Olof Jørgensen age 11
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 26/11/2013 : 21:27:23
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Hi.
After searched through the church books for Moss 1856 plus/minus and a quick search in the neighboring municipalities without any luck I have a question.
Born in Moss 1856;
You do not know where this information comes from?
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 26/11/2013 : 22:16:19
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Hi Sandra
Olof Meier is in my family and have info on him and his Norwegian ancestors, I can also put you in touch with other UK family members. Please private message me with your email and we will be able to help you out.
regards
Shirley in NZ |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 26/11/2013 : 23:30:13
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I am glad Olof Meier is found 
I hope you can share with us when and where he was born.
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
55 Posts |
Posted - 26/11/2013 : 23:52:12
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Hi Kaarto
Had to go back and look at files. Olof Meier is Olof Jorgenson Meier born May 11 1855 Moss. His parents are Jorgen Christensen b1829 Moss and Anne Oldsdatter b 1826 Raade. He would most likely be christened under the name Olof Jorgenson, UK record show him as Olof Meier so no doubt the Jorgenson part was dropped to make it easy. Olof's father Jorgen is the brother of Julie Helene who married my gg uncle.
The Meier name has been spelt 3 ways Meyer- Meier and Myer, which can make research tricky. It looks like the UK side spelt it Meier and the Australian spelt it Meyer then Myer.
Shirley
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 27/11/2013 : 00:18:28
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Shirley.
Thank you for sharing this info with us.
I remember I saw Oluf in the church book for Moss, stopped for a second or two, looked into the godparents and continued.
He was bapt. Oluf Jørgensen.
He was a hard nut to crack.
Both Meier and Meyer are used in Norway.
The origin for some of the Meyer/Meier families in Norway is N. German where also Meier and Meyer are used.
Maier and Mayer are also used in Norway and in S. Germany.
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 27/11/2013 : 01:08:07
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Hi
We have traced back to Joseph Gothard Meyer who was born in Sachen Germany in c1763. He emigrated/ran away to Norway at an early age and as you can see below he was only 14ish and no doubt lied about his age to get into the army.
Proffesional solider enlisted July 10th 1787 in the Hussan Corp of the Danish Army stationed in Bergen, Norway. He was discharged in 1789 and moved to Moss.
Shirley |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/11/2013 : 10:25:00
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Thank you.
It would have been almost impossible to find Olof Meyer without the information you posted.
I guess you have most of this info
It was the soldier in the Husar corps in Bergen Joseph Gothard Meyer`s daughter Karen Anne Josephsdatter Meyer born 1793 in Moss, mother to Jørgen Christensen, Olof Jørgensen Meyer father.
Norwegian genealogists tells that Joseph G. Meyer stated that he was born in Eisenach in Sachens, the Electorate of Saxon, but came from the district Mechlenburg when he came to Norway.
Occ. when he came to Moss 1790 was Tailor journeyman.
Facination family story.
Also two of my ancestors came to Norway from Mechleburg early in the 1700s, the husband Jacob Friderich v.d.Lyhe served as general in Vesterlenske Regimet.
Joseph Meier, tailor and his wife with Karen Anne and a son Gothard in "Stor Gaden" Main street, Moss 1801
Olof Jørgensen with his parents and 6 Jørgensen siblings living in "Steengaden", Moss.
His father Jørgen Christensen was working in a "Teglbrenderie" producing Tiles in 1865
You must have lots of relatives in Norway.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 27/11/2013 11:15:22 |
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Shirley Terrill
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 27/11/2013 : 11:22:14
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Hi Kåre
Thanks for the info, I am in contact with Meyer cousins and have this info. I have been told he was abit naughty and in prison but have not read the "family story" you mention. Where could I get this story.
I love your quote: "You must have lots of relatives in Norway". I seem to be gaining a large amount of Norwegian relatives and just love meeting and learning about them. From my small country on the other side off the world I am having a fantastic journey learning "where I come from".
There is no need for you to research any further for me on this topic as I have been passed alot of info from others and thanks for your time.
Shirley |
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Edited by - Shirley Terrill on 27/11/2013 11:23:53 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/11/2013 : 11:51:36
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Yoy are welcome.
You are right about that Joseph G. Meier was involved in a cort case.
The info comes from a discussion in Norwegian, an ancestor to Joseph B. Meyer, Jorun Olsen from Norway was asking questions about the menaning of an Husar and who and where Joseph G. Meyer was and came from link
A translater will be very helpful.
New Zealand is the farthest populated country from Norway and the southern part of your country is very similar to Norway.
Lucky for Sandra that you found her topic.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 27/11/2013 12:05:59 |
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Sandranistri
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/11/2013 : 23:42:43
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Many thanks to Shirley and Karto for sorting this out. There is little wonder that I could not locate Oluf Meier if he was in fact a Jørgensen! I had even telephoned the library in Moss to see whether they could help me and I have to heard anything back so far so I suspect that they are having the same problem as I was. Where do you fit into this picture Karto?
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Sandranistri
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/11/2013 : 00:03:10
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| I have another question: if Olof Meier is in fact Jørgensen where does Meier come from? |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/11/2013 : 00:26:56
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Hi.
I am only a hobby genealogist helping people to find their Norwegian ancestors.
Olof Jørgensen changed to Meier perhaps to honor his grandmother Karen Anne Josephsdatter Meyer born 1797 in Moss or his G.grandfather Joseph Gothard Meyer who served as a prof. soldier in the Husar corps in Bergen 1787.
Shirley has all the info for you.
Good luck
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Sandranistri
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/11/2013 : 00:49:11
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| Thank you Kare. Is it the case that sons always took their father's Christian name when they were born? My grandfather's name was Nilsen i.e. son of Nils, and his father was Hendriksen, son of Hendrik. I think that it was the same for daughters if the word datter means daughter. Is this something which still happens in Norway? I know that this is not strictly relevant but when I worked I was a linguist: What is the difference between bokmal and nynorsk? |
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