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JaneC
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jkmarler
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 Posted - 04/03/2014 : 17:25:33
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brejohns
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 01:43:37
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| Guess we'll have to wait just a little longer for the Eid bygdebok information. They were able to locate the Seim farm and Just Mortensen. He will scan the pages and email these to me tomorrow. Sounds like they had lots of requests to process. I also found a distant cousin that responded to my email and she may have some family information, but I'm not sure if she may only have photos or something more. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 01:46:55
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This the first page of Siem indre in the "real estate registers" at the digitalarkivet. Pages 18, 19, 23 mentioned some of the names we've already seen:
Kildeinformasjon: Protokollnummer: 11, Sted: Romsdal sorenskriveri, Eid tinglag, Oppbevaringssted: SAT
Merknader: Realregister for Eid. Med register.
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-tl10040907080035.jpg
There is a database online in which Just Mortensen his descendants and ancestors appear. There is no further information on Børre Justsen in the base than what we've already seen but it does mention that Just Mortensen dies 1899. If that is true there may be an estate / probate record of some type about him some where. It doesn't appear that the estate records online for Romsdal go as far in time as 1899. But if the bygdebok for Eid doesn't have anything more on Børre, getting the estate record of Just might rule Børre Johnson in or out.
Osvald Rydjord's database:
http://www.rydjord.slektsweb.no/family.php?famid=F11981&show_full=1 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 01:57:14
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Originally posted by brejohns
Guess we'll have to wait just a little longer for the Eid bygdebok information. They were able to locate the Seim farm and Just Mortensen. He will scan the pages and email these to me tomorrow. Sounds like they had lots of requests to process. I also found a distant cousin that responded to my email and she may have some family information, but I'm not sure if she may only have photos or something more.
Photos, especially if from Norway, would be good help. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 04:30:00
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One thought, if Brejohns can find family members of Just Mortensen who got married and had children and either them or more likely their grandchldren can be found, perhaps they could shed some light on what happened to the brothers Børre and Just. For example in the Family Tree link posted by Jackie, Martine Justdatter Siem married some one and had at least one child, Ole Henriksen Siem born 1881.
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 16:53:38
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Probably the arrival of Jacob Monsas in 1875. Travelling alone, no useful info in the manifest.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Jacob J Monsaas
Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1875
Birth Date: abt 1857
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Bergen, Norway
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: St Olaf |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 17:33:44
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Back to Minnesota in the 1885 Minnesota Census. Expanding the birth year to 1859 +/- 5 for Joh* gives this Burre Johnson born 1856 living in Douglas County, Douglas is adjacent to Otter Tail where wife Alma was living about this time. And not to far from Clay County site of Barnesville MN where Borre Justesen was travelling to,
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Burre Johnson
Age: 29
Census Date: 1 May 1885
County: Douglas
Locality: Urness
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Race: White
LINE: 32
Roll: MNSC_24 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 17:51:38
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| Way interesting. There was a really detailed history published a few years back of people in Urness township in Douglas county. I'll have to take a look at it.... |
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jkmarler
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 19:14:25
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A Monsos family of Taylor, Jackson County, Wisconsin, in "Wisconsin Scandinavian Obituaries" here
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from Taylor Herald newspaper 1926:
"Mrs. Jacob Monsos was born in Lome, Gulbrandsdalen, Norway on January 28, 1834, the daughter of Gutren and Gunhilde Friswold. She was married there in 1857 to Jacob Monsos. They left their native land to come to America, arriving here July 1st, 1884, and coming directly to this city." Children:
Jacob J Monsos of Eau Claire, Eau Claire, WI
Gilbert Monsos of Ashland, Ashland, WI
Anton Monsos of Taylor, Jackson, WI
Carl Monsos of Taylor, Jackson, WI
John Monsos of Washburn, Bayfield, WI (near Ashland)
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wisobits/name/mo.html#MonsosJacobMrs
Find-a-Grave
I suspect this is Jacob J Monsos (1857-1936) burial in Eau Claire, Wisconsin
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Monsos&GSiman=1&GSst=51&GRid=59111080&
Gilbert J Monsos (1859-1927) buried in Ashland, Ashland, Wisconsin:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Monsos&GSiman=1&GSst=51&GRid=19487487&
Anton J Monsos (1862-1948) burial Black River Falls, Jackson, Wisconsin
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Monsos&GSiman=1&GSst=51&GRid=45073095&
John J Monsos (1863-1933) buried in Ashland, Ashland, Wisconsin
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Monsos&GSiman=1&GSst=51&GRid=19487480&
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 22:58:06
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From an earlier posting.
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Burre Johnson born 1856 living in Douglas
Probably not a candidate. In the Minnesota 1885 Census he is living with Hans and Karen Johnson. Most likely this is him in 1880 US Census and now listed as being born in Wisconsin. The rest of the children are similar or identical so I think this is him in 1880. Ages differ a lot between the two census documents but I still think it is the same person in both 1885 and 1880.
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Burens Johnson
Age: 13
Birth Year: abt 1867
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1880: Urness, Douglas, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Hans Johnson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's name: Karen Johnson
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household Members:
Name Age
Hans Johnson 45
Karen Johnson 46
Junius Johnson 14
Burens Johnson 13
Johanne Johnson 16
Maren Johnson 12
Marthinius Johnson 8
Goliath Johnson 6
Nilian Johnson 4 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 01:49:46
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Darn
Yes, but I would go back to the quote of Jackie back many pages, that the solution to intractable problems are usually found in the US. I think that we will struggle with this search until we or actually Brejohns can find some connection between her Borre Johnson and some location in Norway.
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