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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 16/03/2014 : 14:35:23
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Originally posted by brejohns
The death certificate contained very little information. It listed his birth place as Norway and the same for his mother and father, but the name of the mother and father are blank. It gives his birth date as July 27, 1860 and his age as 53 years 6 months 3 days. It says he was married for 28 years and a parent of 11 children of whom 10 are living. It listed John Johnson from Ackworth as the informant and Bore's occupation was farmer. I think I will contact ND Vital Statistic and ask if there is additional information any where else as there were 3 types of death certificates. I will also contact the NDSU Library.
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 17/03/2014 : 03:02:59
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| I did drive over to the cemetery this afternoon. It still has about 2 feet of hard snow on the footstones, but the large headstone was clear and is "Johanson." Sure hope within the next 2 weeks it'll all melt. The informant on Borre's death certificate is "John Johnson" probably his son. I did contact the Dept of Health a second time to see if any additional information was on the other two types of certificates. I was told there wasn't. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/03/2014 : 17:20:45
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What all did the tombstone have engraved on it - did it have a date of birth for Borre? If not I wonder where did the FAG creator get a dob of 10 June? Or is that a mistake... FAG has a message / contact system, I suppose you could ask him. He might have a record of what his source was.
The best candidate to date in Norway was born 10 July and that is the same as your private family record of date of birth. Consider a little more: what is the source of the private story? Who told whom that birth date? The death record looms so large as it is an official record. However, it is only JOHN, one family member, stating the birth date of 27 July. So can we go back to your family story, and explore a little how credible it is, in comparison? I tend to think the family story is correct. My dear daughter is so thoughtful and good, yet called me last year to say, don't kill me mom, but I need to double check your birth date with you. So surprising! But loved ones do forget such things, no matter how caring and tuned in they may be to their family members. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/03/2014 : 17:31:32
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Originally posted by JaneC
What all did the tombstone have engraved on it - did it have a date of birth for Borre? If not I wonder where did the FAG creator get a dob of 10 June? Or is that a mistake... FAG has a message / contact system, I suppose you could ask him. He might have a record of what his source was.
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It still has about 2 feet of hard snow on the footstones, but the large headstone was clear and is "Johanson."
Brejohns would have taken the information if she could have gotten to it! |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/03/2014 : 17:38:07
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Oh! Translation: You are saying that the footstones would have the dates, if any - not the large headstone. Yeah, that could be what she meant.
Maybe she'll answer and tell us what was meant, as I asked to begin with. |
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 18/03/2014 : 01:32:17
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| Yes - you are correct the footstones contain the name, birth and death dates. Only the large headstone is visible now and has Johanson on it. I know that's hard to believe, but here in the Turtle Mountains we still have snow covering most of our fields and the ditches are full. It also seems odd to me that the name "Johanson" is not reflected on any other document - only a cemetery headstone. Quite odd - maybe they got a deal on it when it was incorrect? I will keep checking and will write in as soon as I can. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/03/2014 : 02:45:39
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No August Johanson in 1910 Census. In fact no Johanson at all in Rolette County. No August or Gus or Gust with any name born 1865 plus minus 2. Two Johnsons in North Dakota in 1910 both born in Sweden. August Jonson in McClean Coiunty and a August Johsnon in Stutsman County.The one in McLean and the one in Stutsman are still alive in the 1920 US Census.
No Johanson in 1900 in Rolette County with above criteria, but several Johnsons and even one called Gust Johnson, The same Gust Johnson we found earlier.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Gust Johnson
Age: 33
Birth Date: Apr 1867
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Ox Creek, Rolette, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1884
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Gust Johnson
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 18/03/2014 : 02:57:59
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| Nothing in Laura Thompson Law book for August Johanson and nothing is listed in the Dunseith History Book. The grave stone is located at Little Prairie Cemetery and my husband is the cemetery sexton there. I'll see if I can locate any information. |
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 18/03/2014 : 03:13:12
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| I checked with my husband and the Little Prairie Cemetery plot map. My husband says he is not aware of any connection we have with August Johanson buried at Little Prairie. August is buried in Lot 7 with Pearl Dalton (1889-1906) and Edna Dalton (1892-1908). Not sure if there is a connection between Daltons and Johanson, but they are in the same plot. Little Prairie Cemetery is located north of Willow Lake Township and the Rendahl Cemetery is located south of Willow Lake Township. Rendahl Cemetery is where Borre Johnson is buried. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/03/2014 : 04:43:04
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Probably the Peral and Edna Dalton named above.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Edna Dalton
Age: 8
Birth Date: Dec 1891
Birthplace: Michigan
Home in 1900: Dunseith, Rolette, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: James Dalton
Father's Birthplace: Virginia
Mother's name: Jane E Dalton
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio
Occupation:
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Name Age
James Dalton 43
Jane E Dalton 38
Otas C Dalton 13
Peril Dalton 11
Owen Dalton 8
Edna Dalton 8
Raymond Dalton 3/12 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/03/2014 : 10:58:57
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Grave Search Results
Records 1 to 6 (of 6 total matches)
Name Cemetery
Johanson, Alfred 27609069
b. 1875 d. 1956 Emanuel Cemetery
Rolette County
North Dakota, USA
Johanson, August 14616746
b. 1865 d. Aug. 28, 1911 Little Prairie Cemetery
Saint John
Rolette County
North Dakota, USA
Johanson, Borre 27609456
b. Jun. 10, 1860 d. Jan. 27, 1914 Rendahl Cemetery
Dunseith
Rolette County
North Dakota, USA
Johanson, Clarence 27609070
b. 1905 d. 1987 Emanuel Cemetery
Rolette County
North Dakota, USA
Johanson, Melvin 19859828
b. 1912 d. 2004 Mylo Cemetery
Mylo
Rolette County
North Dakota, USA
Johanson, Olive 27609071
b. 1885 d. 1964 Emanuel Cemetery
Rolette County
North Dakota, USA
These are the 6 Johanson burials in Rolette county at findagrave. Very early in the topic it was mentioned that Borre was related to Johanson family was that because of the large headstone with Johanson on it or something else?
Regarding the sexton's records at Little Prairie, do the records show who purchased the plot?
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 20/03/2014 : 03:01:44
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I checked with my husband and the Little Prairie plot book does not provide the name of who purchased the plot - only the names of those buried.
I only mentioned "Johanson" earlier in the messages in regards to the name on the head stone where Borre is buried. No other legal documents reflect the name Johanson, but it may have been used interchangeably with Johnson years ago. The 1900 federal census even listed their last name as Jonson. Odd that there were so many versions of his name. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/03/2014 : 13:26:23
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Originally posted by brejohns
I checked with my husband and the Little Prairie plot book does not provide the name of who purchased the plot - only the names of those buried.
I only mentioned "Johanson" earlier in the messages in regards to the name on the head stone where Borre is buried. No other legal documents reflect the name Johanson, but it may have been used interchangeably with Johnson years ago. The 1900 federal census even listed their last name as Jonson. Odd that there were so many versions of his name.
If the Johanson on the headstone is a mistake for Borre it might also be the same mistake for Gust Johnson (who is interesting as he might be Børre Justsen's brother). So it might be a curiosity or it might be significant, you won't know until you know.
Years ago when I first started my research I kept a list of all the various renderings of my last name thinking that if a human mind makes a mistake once, another might make the same mistake again and knowing the variations allows me another avenue of research.
Errors do happen on headstones as well. My great grandfather's headstone records his birth year as 1866. The family always celebrated it as 1869. He died in the Great Depression and I assumed that a mistake got "discounted" and that was the reason to keep the stone. |
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brejohns
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Posted - 25/03/2014 : 02:59:07
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Today I received copies of Borre's Homestead claim filing from the National Archives Trust Fund in DC. Lots of copies so I hope I can sort through them. Homestead application 21865 was filed in the Land Office at Devils Lake ND on May 15, 1907. Final certificate 13358 was approved on August 10, 1907 and patented on September 18, 1907. The Homestead certificate is in the name of "Barny Samson" for Section 19 in Township 163 N Range 73W 5th PM for 159.7 acres. A receiver's receipt for the land is in the amount of $4. dated May 14, 1907.
The Homestead application is dated July 3, 1900 and signed by "Borry Samson." However, the cover of the Homestead Application is addressed to "Barny Sampson."
A legal size "Certificate of Citizenship" was included. It is in the name of Barny Sampson and dated 15th of November 1892 from the second judicial district of Rolette County.
A receiver's receipt in the name of Barny Sampson in the sum of $14 for Section 19, Township 163 N Range 73.
A Homestead Affidavit filed on July 3, 1900 listed Barney Samson of Dunseith, ND being over 21 years of age and the head of a family and being a fully naturalized citizen. He swore he was residing on the land he was filing for and that his settlement commenced in July 1896. It consisted of a sod house, log stable, good well, and 80 acres fenced. The land was valued at $300. It was signed by Borry Samson. A non-mineral affidavit was filed also on July 3, 1900 by Barney Samson and his signature (again) appears to me to be Borry Samson.
On March 26, 1907 Barny Samson of Ackworth ND filed a notice for his Homestead Application 21865 for Sec 19, Twp 163 Range 73 to prove his residence and cultivation before John H Kirk, County Judge of Bottineau ND on May 9, 1907. Witnesses listed: Andrew Bergan of Juno, ND; Oscar Evenstad of Dunseith, ND; Chris Bay of Juno, ND; and Theodore Windom of Ackworth, ND. The notice was signed by Barny Samson. The above notice was to be published in the Magnet printed at Dunseith, ND. Another DOI form states the same information regarding the land and is signed by Barny Samson. DOI Notice for Publication also states the same identical information.
An Affidavit as to the Nearest or Most Accessible Officer" was filed by John H. Kirk of Bottineau County. Final proof of Barny Samson residing on this land.
A sworn oath for Barny Samson who deposes and says that he is the same identical person who on the 5th day of November 1892 had issued to him out of the office of the Clerk of the District Court of Rolette County, ND, a certificate of citizenship which said certificate was issued to him in the name of Barney Sampson; this affidavit further says that he is the same identical person who on the 5th day of July, 1900 made H. E. No. 21865 for the South half of north east quarter and north west quarter of south east quarter and lot six of section 19 in township 163 north, of range 73 west; and who herewith submits this final proof. It is signed by Barny Samson and Judge John H Kirk.
A single affidavit states: "Barny Samson being first duly sworn on oath depose and says that he is the same identical person who submits the final proof hereto attached; that the correct spelling of his name is as follows: "BARNY SAMSON." This is signed on May 9, 1907 and also signed by Bottineau County Judge John H Kirk.
A copy of the newspaper clipping showing the required publication for the land under the Homestead Act dated May 15, 1907.
"Testimony of Witness" by Andrew Bergan states that Barney Samson resided on this land in July 1900 and he had farmed it for 7 seasons. He listed improvements to the land and said it was valued at $1600. The testimony contains 12 questions. A second testimony given by Oscar Evenstad for Barny Samson states that Barny resided on the land in June 1900. It also listed the land value at $1600.
The final copy is Testimony of Claimant Barny Samson, age 46 with post office address of Ackworth, ND. Confirms he is a naturalized citizen and that he filed certificate 21865 under the Homestead Act on the 5th of July 1900. He states he and his wife and 8 children live on this land. It is signed by "Barny Samson."
A lot of information but most of it is duplicated. It's interesting that he filed an affidavit correcting the spelling of his name. It is also noteworthy that he listed his age (46) on the testimony of claimant dated May 9, 1907.
We still have snow here, but if it warms up by the weekend I should be able to find the grave stone. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we won't get any more snow! |
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