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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 20/01/2014 : 15:17:31
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Thanks for that Kåre. Very interesting links.
I am curious about Kristian's parents - he is not with Josefine in 1900 census, if I've identified the correct Josefine in 1900.
Re. Kløften Station: "The station was originally called Kløften, but was renamed to Kløfta in 1920."
Here a map of Kråkstad where you can see Bjerke:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k-bPNZiL84A/TC6JO_0P5NI/AAAAAAAACO0/LPlfVGYZ5ng/s1600/Krakstad+Map.jpg
ugift = unmarried
Josefine's daughter Solveig getting confirmed in Lutheran faith:
CONFIRMATION, Ministerialbok for Kråkstad prestegjeld, Ski sokn 1893-1917 (0212P)
Date: 02.10.1910
Place: Kråkstad Ski
Solveig Helene Marie Bjerke born 22.10.1895 in Kr.ania, Grønland
Residence: Finstad
Father: ugift politikonstabel Hans Henrik Fredriksen. Residence: Bjerke
Mother: pike Josefine Charlotte Bentzen
Josefine's daughter Harriet getting confirmed:
Date: 01.10.1911
Place: Kråkstad Ski
Harriet Charlotte Bjerke born 16.12.1896 in Paulus, Kr.ania
Residence: Sørli
Father: Politikonstabel Hans Henrik Fredriksen. Residence: Bjerke
Mother: Josefine Charlotte Bentsen f.
"f." = født = born (i.e. her birth name) |
Edited by - JaneC on 20/01/2014 15:47:58 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 15:43:54
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Hei.
I believe Kristians father was Olaf Bjerke since Kristian was rec. as Kristian Olafsen Bjerke.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 16:01:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto
Unmarried Factory worker Kristian Olafsen Bjerke... I believe Josefine Bjerke, retired widow in 1910, is father Kristian Olafsen Bjerkes mother, Elses grandmother. Kåre
Is Josefine the mother of Kristian? He is not with her in 1900. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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KristenHicks
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 18:11:28
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Jane, Kåre, JKMarler,
I'm just weeping, can hardly see the keyboard...I have no words...aside from "thank you all", so incredibly much. This is just astounding...
I've been searching the records through the Old Aker Church...completely in the wrong direction.
Going to let this sink in for a bit. My eternal thanks to you... |
Edited by - KristenHicks on 20/01/2014 18:38:47 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 18:51:13
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 21:10:47
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I am happy on your behalf 
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 21:36:38
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A candidate.
Kristian Bjerke, unmarried factory-worker, who. em to Canada 1910 was born in Eidsvoll April 24. 1891 link
Same Kristian born in Eidsvoll April 24. 1891.
Parents; Stable-man Olaus Hansen Nygaard and Gusta Olsdatter, see last bapt. #53
Eidsvoll 1900
Olaus Hansen Bjerke, factory-worker, cellulose, and wife Gusta Olsdatter with 6 children, Kristian Olausen (Olafsen) b. 1891.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 22:39:13
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Originally posted by JaneC
Maybe another possibility:
1910 Norway Census
Kristiania kjøpstad
Kristian Bjerke born 11.07.1886 in Norderhov, unmarried
Occupation: Stationsbetjent Jernb.
Jane's possible #34 son of Kristoffer Nilsen Bjerke:
Source information: Buskerud county, Norderhov in Norderhov, Parish register copy nr. I 7 (1877-1887), Birth and baptism records 1886, page 141.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1114&idx_id=1114&uid=ny&idx_side=-147
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/01/2014 : 22:48:47
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Originally posted by Kåarto
A young candidate.
Kristian Bjerke, unmarried factory-worker, who. em to Canada 1910 was born in Eidsvoll April 24. 1891 link
Same Kristian born in Eidsvoll April 24. 1891.
Parents; Stable-man Olaus Hansen Nygaard and Gusta Olsdatter, see last bapt. #53
Eidsvoll 1900
Olaus Hansen Bjerke, factory-worker, cellulose, and wife Gusta Olsdatter with 6 children, Kristian Olausen (Olafsen) b. 1891.
Kåre
Apparently came to US here is draft registration card WWI:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K8QV-9RB |
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JaneC
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 01:32:57
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It's a database about people from Nannestad. The following is copied and pasted in from the database:
"Names of people born in Nannestad, their ancestors, decendants or relatives, born from year1600 to today, including all emigrants (eventually) " |
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KristenHicks
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 01:53:02
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Unbelievable.
Just to (attempt) to get this straight, Else was indeed born on the birthdate/birthplace that we knew April 1, 1910, in Kristiania. Both of her parents were in attendance of her Baptism, on April 22, 1910, at her father's family's farm in Ski, attended by/requested by Kristian's mother, Josefine? Shortly after her Baptism, both parents emigrated, Lovise to Minnesota, Kristian to Canada...then Else was apparently "fostered" by her Father's Mother, Josefine, until 1919 when Lovise came back from the US, and then took Else back with her? Am I close at least? :)
I apologize, but this is just so much information to try and take in at once. And I thought that I was dizzy with information overload in regards to Lovise's side, after I began researching a bit, between all of the Hanses' and Hansdatter's... This is information that was never spoken about in our family. With Else and all of her children (our parents) being gone now, it's just my cousin, brother, and myself, trying to answer questions, that seemed to not even have potential answers.
If it weren't for you all, (and a Mr. Robert Bjerke, of no relation, but hey I asked!) that I've been e-mailing with as well, I NEVER would have figured this angle out. Ever! You all are utterly amazing...and I'm still speechless.
Yes Kåre, I am still incredibly interested in hearing more of Lovise's side, back to 1666?? Wow. Just. Wow.
I definitely believe in "Divine Intervention", and I really think that I needed this..."lesson", if you will. You all are here, helping us to learn the truth, FINALLY, for a reason. And I am here, and ever so thankful, to hear it from you... As always, the Lord is mysterious in His ways, but always in perfect time...
All of my love and appreciation, Kristen |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/01/2014 : 04:01:10
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HI Kristen, so good to hear from you. Here's a response to your summary - Kåre is a native speaker and will I hope correct any mistakes in interpretation - but is likely asleep now (it's nighttime in Norway)
Else was born 01 April 1910 and baptized 22 April 1910. Don't know if her parents attended her baptism. Her father is named as Kristian Olafsen Bjercke. This means he is "Olaf's son" - i.e. his father is named Olaf something (or Oluf, Olav, Olaus, etc). Josefine Charlotte Bentsen Bjerke was a witness at the baptism. Presumably the mother (Louise) named the father and their names are recorded but this does not necessarily mean they attended. We don't know Josefine's relationship to the family, if any, other than that Else lives with her as a foster child in 1910. Shortly after Else's baptism, her mother emigrated. We do not know about her father; he MIGHT be the man who emigrated in May 1910 to Canada and onward to USA. We don't know who the parents of your Kristian are and we don't know where your Kristian was born. The parents of the man who emigrated are Olaus Hansen Nygaard and Gusta Olsdatter (see posted records). Another name for Olaus Hansen Nygaard is Olaus Hansen Bjerke (a person's "address name" can change). The Kristian who emigrated May 1910 is about the right age to be your Kristian; his name would be Kristian Olausen Bjerke so that's a match; and he was born not far from the residence of "your" Kristian when Else was baptised in 1910. This is circumstantial evidence but not proof that he is "your" Kristian. As for fostering Else, it's not possible to say at this point who primarily fostered Else. Else lived with Josefine Bjerke in December 1910 when the census was taken. In 1919 Else's place of residence was same as her maternal grandfather's (per passenger manifest). So those are two points in time when we know her whereabouts. When Else was registered to emigrate she was listed as a "hotel worker" if I recall correctly - though she was but 9. I was curious about that. Don't know when Lovise returned to Norway; but yes she took Else back to USA with her in 1919. Hope this helps. |
Edited by - JaneC on 21/01/2014 22:52:17 |
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Hans Gjerdrum - Louise H. Gjerdrum - Bjerke
