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Kåarto
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 Posted - 09/06/2015 : 22:27:02
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
Please note that there is no mention of Johannes Halvorsson 1793 going to America. The only one is Halvor Halvorsson born 1874.
Em. from Akkerhaugen:
1847 Mathias Halvorsen b. 1822
1851 Ambros Halvorsen b.1831
1852 Halvor Halvorsen b.1792, wife Inger Kittilsdatter b. 1806 and children; Torgun 1839, Margit 1842, Kirsti 1845 and Anne 1850
Year ? Halvor Halvorsen b. 1874
1878 Rollev Persen b. 1858
1882 Anne Persdatter b. 1863
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Edited by - Kåarto on 09/06/2015 23:46:11 |
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 00:58:20
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In addition to Johannes there are other Halvorson & Halvorsdatter on Rødklev in the confirmation records of Bø:
1799, pg 287
Anne Halvorsdatter Rødklev
Anne Halvorsdatter last entry left page:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1755-1800), Chronological list 1782, page 112.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7967&idx_id=7967&uid=ny&idx_side=-114
1801, pg 288
Jørgen _______ Rødklev (his patronymic may be Halvorsen it's kind of smeared and hard to read)
1810, pg 296
Birgit Halvorsdatter Rødklev
1812, pg 298
Gunnild Halvorsdatter Rødklev
#36 Gunnild Halvorsdtr Rødklev baptism
Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1785-1815), Chronological list 1796, page 94-95.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7917&idx_id=7917&uid=ny&idx_side=-50
Possibly Gunnild #3 in 1825:
Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1815-1831), Death and burial records 1825, page 212-213.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-121
The other daughter Birgit was not found as being baptized in either Flatdal in Seljord or in Bøe. There are a number of baptisms in Bø for a child of Halvor farmname but no patronymic and wife no name at all. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 10/06/2015 05:58:03 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 04:04:26
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Familysearch.org in the Norway Baptisms database has a daughter named Signe born to Halvor Jorgenson and Ingeborg Jensdatter in Seljord in 1791. Here is her baptism, right hand page, 3rd entry however the parents' names are Halvor (farm name I can't quite get) and Ingeborg Jensdatter It is Jorgensen:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1755-1800), Chronological list 1791, page 137.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7967&idx_id=7967&uid=ny&idx_side=-139
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 05:36:52
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Sorry I'm late getting back to you all ...busy day. Thank you all for your contributions to this topic...I have yet to digest it all. Here is the information that I have on Johanes Halvorsen family. You might remember a very long 15 page forum on his wife Gunild Nilsdatter Kleven. All of this information is on that forum.
Johanes Halvorsen born 1793 Saherad, died 1849 in Illinois USA, married Gunild Nilsdat. Kleven Nov. 17, 1818....her birthdate 1795, died in Illinois USA ...date unknown
Children: Halvor Johannesen born 1819
Nils Johannesen born 1822
Ingeborg Johansdat. born 1825
Johanes Johannesen born 1834
Andrew Johannesen born 1841
All born in Norway
Johanes and Gunild emigrated to USA in 1843 with the three youngest children Nils, Ingeborg and baby Andrew
Halvor (my 2nd Great Grandfather) emigrated 12 years later with his family 1855
So my quest here is to find my lineage going back from Johanes Halvorsen .....his parents and grandparents. As I mentioned earlier on this post I thought I had his lineage but the information I received lately from the Saherad Bygdebok indicates I was on the wrong track.
Perhaps the family from Rodklev ?? ...I need to study what you have laid out above.
Thanks again ever so much for your efforts.
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 13:29:06
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These are all males whose name starts with Jo*, with patronymic Hal* regardless of birth date in Bøe in 1801:
Joen Halvorsen 1776* Mand Begge i 1ste ægteskab Huusmand med jord Bøe: Grivi m Folketelling 1801 for 0821P Bø prestegjeld
Joen Halvorsen 1736* Mand Givt 3die gang Husmand med jord Bøe: Smidehougen m Folketelling 1801 for 0821P Bø prestegjeld
Joen Halvorsen 1730* Mand Givt 1ste gang Husmand med jord Bøe: Grinerud m Folketelling 1801 for 0821P Bø prestegjeld
Johannes Halvorsen 1788* Deres børn Bøe: Østerlie Midgaarden m Folketelling 1801 for 0821P Bø prestegjeld
Johannes Halvorsen 1799* Deres børn Bøe: Folkestad Øvre m Folketelling 1801 for 0821P Bø prestegjeld |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 17:37:51
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Originally posted by eibache
The marriage record for Halvor Olsen and Liv Johanesdatter is the 8th record on right page. They were married June 18 1793. Halvor was a corporal.
Their first child Johanes was baptized Dec 22 1793, see 5th record from bottom of left page. The parents were living at Lansverk.
Other cildren were:
Mari bapt Nov 26 1797
Anun bapt May 13 1799
Anne bapt Sep 13 1801
Hans bapt Aug 28 1803
Halvor bapt Jan 12 1807
Ole bapt. May 6 1810
Sauherad Bygdebok volume 3 page 518.
Halvor Olsen 1767-1853 married to Liv Johannesdatter 1771-1843 from Tveiten bought Jongsås that included subfarm Akkerhaugen.
His son Johannes b. 1793 on Landsverk, d. 1874 inherited Akkerhaugen and married in 1835 Kari Jonsdatter Åsen 1771-1871.
Her parents; Jon Svenungsen Åsen and Hælge Auersdatter b. Evje.
children; Liv 1837, Halvor 1845-1919, next owner of Akkerhaugen
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Edited by - Kåarto on 10/06/2015 17:38:44 |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 18:20:03
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Jackie: It is quite possible that my birth date for Johanes Halvorsen (1793) is not correct. I have good information from the IDA Public Library Long Prairie Church Records that show that Johanes was buried on October 27 1849 at the age of 60 years. that would have made his birthdate circa 1789. ....if that information was recorded correctly ??
Kare: I think we can eliminate the Halvor Olsen/ Liv Johannesdat. connection as Johanes parents based on the information that I received from Bydgebok .....that information indicates a different spouse for Johanes. I know that his wife and mother of my 2nd great Grandfather was Gunild Nilsdat. Kleven. under Askilt. ....unless you have other information to contest this ?? Their son Halvor was born 1819 ....your information shows son Halvor born 1845....or am I missing something? |
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Edited by - lornejohnson on 10/06/2015 18:26:11 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 18:45:53
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Hi.
I also believe we can exclude Johannes Halvorsen born 1793 on Landsverk who inherited Akkerhaugen, still I can not find a second Johannes Halvorsen born 1793 in Sauherad . And your Johannes died in America.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 10/06/2015 18:49:12 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 19:02:10
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I am not sure if you have seen this before, there are so many names and pages.
Halvor Johannesen b. August 10. 1819 on Kleven in Bø.
Parents; Johannes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdatter Kleven under Askilt, #47 |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 19:02:11
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| Kare: Can I get you to search Bo ....instead of Sauherad. My information on his birth was likely connected to the information of his parents being Landsverk Akkerhaugen .....which I think we now believe to be incorrect. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 19:03:49
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Even though Halvor Jørgensen Rødklev was a husman and having an estate to muddle with is unlikely, you should check it out for certain.
Likely it will be the weight of circumstances which will tell you if Johannes Halvorson Rødklev is your man or not.
That means looking at all the faddernes of his and Gunnild's children to see if there are any possible relative names there. Following up on J.H. R's brother Jørgen to see if Johannes & Gunnild were ever faddernes for any of his children or indeed for any of the supposed sibling's children.
Why did Johannes and Gunnild move (for the birth of daughter Ingeborg)? Did some of JHR's siblings move at the same time to the same place?
Barring that any other Johannes Halvorson moved into Bø between 1801 & 1818-- which is somewhat unknowable since the registers of moves weren't being kept for most of that period (and for 1815 + though there was a spot in the Bø churchbooks to keep that information the pastor put the vaccinations there instead)--JHR seems the most logical person and especially now since there is evidence stateside to point to a different birth year than what you had.
By the by, is the marriage record the only evidence of his birth year 1792-1793? |
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